HawkItus Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Apparently, Sund wasn't happy with Woodson either about putting JJ in during the 4th quarter of a blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSiete Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Actions speak louder than words... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted February 25, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 The time for action will be the offseason. As it stands, this team is still on pace to be better than last year. Until that changes, Sund would be making a risky decision to fire Woodson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yeah as much as I dislike Woodson it's better to fire him in the offseason when we can find a replacement and give him time to work with the guys. Sadly I wish that was one of the last THREE offseasons. It would be hard enough to find a replacement during the season, and an interim coach isn't going to be able to install an offense during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSiete Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I understand that "action" probably won't happen until the offseason, if it happens at all... It's just really hard to see all the talent on this team not being utilized, to see all the youth on this team not being utilized.... Really, really sad... I'm almost convinced that an interim coach could install more of an offensive gameplan than Woody has... I know, I know... :beathorse: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted February 25, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I'm not much of a Woody basher, but I thought I'd chime in with a coaching option. What about Fratello? He really knows the game and seems to tailor his game plan around the strengths/weaknesses of the players. Once again I'm not suggesting Woody be fired, but Fratello seems like a decent option. If only Hubie Brown still wanted to coach I'd pick him up in a heartbeat. I just think we need an experienced guy for the HC. Edited February 25, 2009 by hawkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm not much of a Woody basher, but I thought I'd chime in with a coaching option. What about Fratello? He really knows the game and seems to tailor his game plan around the strengths/weaknesses of the players. Once again I'm not suggesting Woody be fired, but Fratello seems like a decent option. If only Hubie Brown still wanted to coach I'd pick him up in a heartbeat. I just think we need an experienced guy for the HC. I would be very happy with Fratello. Woodson is showing his lack of understanding of the season more and more. Playing JJ in that loss is just the best expression of Woodson's complete inability to see past a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonegully Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i mentioned Fratello in the chat a couple of games ago. I mean it seems that Woodson has no idea what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted February 25, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Apparently, Sund wasn't happy with Woodson either about putting JJ in during the 4th quarter of a blowout. he should be worried. Woody is running our star player into the ground. It makes no sense for him going back into that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank966 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 The time for action will be the offseason. As it stands, this team is still on pace to be better than last year. Until that changes, Sund would be making a risky decision to fire Woodson. I agree. Sund has made the right move so far of not firing Woody. Amidst, a playoff race we can not afford to let him walk this late in the season. Plus, we are currently 4th in our conference. We are doing better than we thought but right now we are not playing up to our potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRyda Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Mo Cheeks baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted February 25, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Mo Cheeks baby! Pretty much someone with a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 What is the difference between Joe and every (at least 90%) other All-Star you can think off. Hustle. Joe does not hustle. Joe does not dive for the ball " " refuse to lose. " " dominate individually or collectively. " " expend energy. If he does, he's out of shape. Down by 20-25 D-Wade is still pushing to the rim. " " Kobe is asserting his will. " " Ray Allen is making hustle plays defensively and he is not a standout defender. All this running down Joe is Crap. Guys making millions should not have to be motivated, to hustle, to save fortitude to excell beyond limits. Joe may have a physical issue not disclosed. If not, He's dogging it. Sits like a spoiled brat. You guys co-sign that Bull. Joe needs to bust it so the rest of the guys might. Josh is another issue, with no remedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted February 25, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Pretty much someone with a clue I'm sticking with Fratello until a better name comes up. I can't look past his understanding of the game and players. He received a lot of criticism for his "slow down" offense with the Cavs, but he did what he had to do with the players he had. The main point I got from that was that he had a very good understanding of his personnel and their limitations at that time and he adjusted accordingly. His team executed well in the halfcourt for the type of players he had. I'd just like to see Woodson do a little more to maximize the talent we have rather than just calling one on one plays. That Utah game was VERY telling. The difference in coaching was night and day. Edited February 25, 2009 by hawkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I say fire Woody now. You never know with these Hawks. They could find some motivation within themselves (not Woody) and win a few series. Then it is back to mediocrity after Woody gets a 5 year deal. Edited February 25, 2009 by GameTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm sticking with Fratello until a better name comes up. I can't look past his understanding of the game and players. He received a lot of criticism for his "slow down" offense with the Cavs, but he did what he had to do with the players he had. The main point I got from that was that he had a very good understanding of his personnel and their limitations at that time and he adjusted accordingly. His team executed well in the halfcourt for the type of players he had. I'd just like to see Woodson do a little more to maximize the talent we have rather than just calling one on one plays. That Utah game was VERY telling. The difference in coaching was night and day. I wasn't the greatest Fratello fan with Hawks. But in retro with the help of a conversation with 'Nique, I look at him differently. Hubie is my all-time favorite, but he is too old now. I have supported Woody but not blindly. It is a different kind of player now. It seems the guys successful have to really get into their heads. But you still have to have the horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 What is the difference between Joe and every (at least 90%) other All-Star you can think off. Hustle. Joe does not hustle. Joe does not dive for the ball " " refuse to lose. " " dominate individually or collectively. " " expend energy. If he does, he's out of shape. Down by 20-25 D-Wade is still pushing to the rim. " " Kobe is asserting his will. " " Ray Allen is making hustle plays defensively and he is not a standout defender. All this running down Joe is Crap. Guys making millions should not have to be motivated, to hustle, to save fortitude to excell beyond limits. Joe may have a physical issue not disclosed. If not, He's dogging it. Sits like a spoiled brat. You guys co-sign that Bull. Joe needs to bust it so the rest of the guys might. Josh is another issue, with no remedy. I would agree if you said elite players but All Star or stars like J.J. aren't Wade or Kobe. They can be streaky from time to time. This is a knee-jerk reaction. Sund needs to try to bring in a true starting quality center this off season while he's talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm just glad to know that Sund was not happy. BK never gave any info to the fans. Maybe he'll call Woody in for a chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted February 26, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I wasn't the greatest Fratello fan with Hawks. But in retro with the help of a conversation with 'Nique, I look at him differently. Hubie is my all-time favorite, but he is too old now. I have supported Woody but not blindly. It is a different kind of player now. It seems the guys successful have to really get into their heads. But you still have to have the horses. Hubie would be THE best choice for this team because of his teaching ability. The way he coached up Memphis was amazing. Too bad his age prevents him from coaching. But the biggest thing we need is an experienced guy to teach these guys how to play consistent, winning basketball. We someone who can teach these guys the nuances of the game. I hope Woody can still be that guy, but this season hasn't been all that encouraging. We seem to have reached the "limit" as far as how well this team can play with Woodson as coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwell Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hubie would be THE best choice for this team because of his teaching ability. The way he coached up Memphis was amazing. Too bad his age prevents him from coaching. But the biggest thing we need is an experienced guy to teach these guys how to play consistent, winning basketball. We someone who can teach these guys the nuances of the game. I hope Woody can still be that guy, but this season hasn't been all that encouraging. We seem to have reached the "limit" as far as how well this team can play with Woodson as coach. Woody will NEVER be that guy. He's proven too many times that he's stupid beyond measure. With the way he coaches one wouldn't even think he knew all the ins and outs of the game to teach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now