Cavs engaged Hawks in trade talks a week ago to clear max spot

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and this from JDub

 

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[nathan2331]

Why don't the Cavs talk to the Sixers or the Magic?

[hawkman]

Thornton is an expiring, but ~9 mil is way too much unless Ferry feels like the team could use Thornton to fill  a roster spot until the trade deadline. Thornton used to be a decent scorer with the Pelicans.

[DawnOfThemBirds]

Think the Cavs would be willing to deal Dion Waiters?

 

 

I don't see a place for him on the Cavs with Irving, Wiggins, and potentially Lebron.

 

 

I think Waiters could flourish on another team.

[NJHAWK]

Would make no sense whatsoever. What the hell did we just dump Lou and Lucas for?

[DrReality]

A week ago? I would imagine that's old news..... Long time ago in FA time

[GrimeyKidd]

Would make no sense whatsoever. What the hell did we just dump Lou and Lucas for?

dumped a guy slow at recovering and a center with knee problems. We need guys who don't stop the flow of offense

[johnnyde]

Cleveland does have some "enticing" draft picks to add for whatever team takes on Thornton (not saying this is what they are offering, rather possible picks they COULD offer. From Realgm (http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed):

 

2015 first round draft pick from Memphis
Memphis' 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 or 1-5 in 2018 or unprotected in 2019 [Cleveland-Memphis, 1/22/2013]

2015 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]

Edited July 7, 2014 by johnnyde

[hawkman]

Cleveland does have some "enticing" draft picks to add for whatever team takes on Thornton (not saying this is what they are offering, rather possible picks they COULD offer. From Realgm (http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed):

 

2015 first round draft pick from Memphis

Memphis' 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 or 1-5 in 2018 or unprotected in 2019 [Cleveland-Memphis, 1/22/2013]

2015 first round draft pick from Miami

Miami's 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]

Now that's interesting. The protection on the picks sucks though.

[AHF]

Cleveland does have some "enticing" draft picks to add for whatever team takes on Thornton (not saying this is what they are offering, rather possible picks they COULD offer. From Realgm (http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed):

 

2015 first round draft pick from Memphis

Memphis' 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in 2016, 1-5 in 2017 or 1-5 in 2018 or unprotected in 2019 [Cleveland-Memphis, 1/22/2013]

2015 first round draft pick from Miami

Miami's 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]

 

You are right about that.  If we aren't going to land a lottery pick ourselves and won't land an elite free agent at an appropriate price, getting a potential lottery pick in a trade could be a good use of our cap space.

[AHF]

Now that's interesting. The protection on the picks sucks though.

 

The Memphis pick is more interesting on the protection side - it is protected against being a non-lottery pick as well as protected against being a top 5 so you'd think that one should translate into pretty good value.

[hawkman]

The Memphis pick is more interesting on the protection side - it is protected against being a non-lottery pick as well as protected against being a top 5 so you'd think that one should translate into pretty good value.

Yeah but doesn't that mean if it isn't picks 6-14 we don't get the pick?

[AHF]

Yeah but doesn't that mean if it isn't picks 6-14 we don't get the pick?

 

It rolls over until the next year when the same protections apply until it is utterly unprotected on both ends.  

[Diesel]

I would like to help Cleveland get Lebron...

 

IF we had a suitor for Jarrett Jack?

 

Since things are going in reverse, I'd say:  Salmons to Cleveland, Jack to GS, Barnes to us.

And call it a day.

GS needs the BU PG help.

[Admin]

My guess would be that they're really wanting Salmons contract so we may see something on this in the next couple of days. Wouldn't shock me to see Ferry try and get those future picks while taking back an expiring contract from the Cavs or another team in a 3 way deal.

[JTB]

Hmmmm I don't know...why not just sign deng out right.

[ATLSmith]

The Memphis pick is more interesting on the protection side - it is protected against being a non-lottery pick as well as protected against being a top 5 so you'd think that one should translate into pretty good value.

 

I like the Heat pick out of the two.  Especially if it becomes certain that LBJ is headed back to Cleveland.  That would leave Miami no choice but to rebuild so the Hawks could snag a good pick in a year or two.

[mrhonline]

Ideally, it would be something like:

 

Jack/2nd to Brooklyn

Thornton/1st to Atlanta

Salmons to Cleveland (waived)

[Buzzard]

We would be giving up the chance to sign a good player like Deng; so the Cavs have to sweeten the pot considerably. The other downside is helping a conference foe become a contender....

[JTB]

I have read that Deng doesn't want to come to Atlanta unless jarret jack comes with him!

I got that from a rumor online plus I have a family member up in ohio that confirmed hearing that on the radio.

If ferry wants deng so bad looks like he's got to bring Jarrett jack with him.