I don't understand all the doomsday

[ATL_BALLER]

For the first time in a long while, we have:

• Stable, committed ownership
• A world-class head coach
• A well-regarded GM who helped architect a dynasty
• No crippling contracts (Plumlee and Baze are overpaid, but not immovable)
• A sensible strategy built on flexibility to pounce when the time is right (ala Houston with Harden)
• Three solid young pieces as a new foundation
• An end to the 'treadmill' so many here have been begging for

What am I missing?

[PacMan123]

Because this:

"All Atlanta has to show for the 60-win starting five is Taurean Prince and a protected Cleveland 2019 first-round pick."

[DJlaysitup]

OMG...OMg...Omg...  this post is funnier than "I Love Lucy"  

[Alex]

Is this serious?

[Admin]

15 minutes ago, ATL_BALLER said:

For the first time in a long while, we have:

• Stable, committed ownership
• A world-class head coach
• A well-regarded GM who helped architect a dynasty
• No crippling contracts (Plumlee and Baze are overpaid, but not immovable)
• A sensible strategy built on flexibility to pounce when the time is right (ala Houston with Harden)
• Three solid young pieces as a new foundation
• An end to the 'treadmill' so many here have been begging for

What am I missing?

I don't think it's you that is missing something. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't truly happy unless they can wallow in misery with others... even if they're having to invent reasons to be miserable. And this is why free agents don't want to come to Atlanta because they know that fans won't support them unless they're the best team in the league.

[ATL_BALLER]

4 minutes ago, PacMan123 said:

Because this:

"All Atlanta has to show for the 60-win starting five is Taurean Prince and a protected Cleveland 2019 first-round pick."

• Demarre = think he's worth $15 mil per, especially the way he's played since inking that deal?
• Al = They offered him a fair deal, which he chose to decline
• Teague = Prince; quality swap
• Korver = 1st round pick; fantastic swap
• Sap = no defending this one, but that was when our coach was also making personnel decisions; in the absence of those missed assets, happy to have flexibility considering the current direction of the team

Regardless, we can hold onto regrets and missed opportunities, or see that for the first time in a while, the team has what appears to be quality leadership at the top that won't settle for mediocrity.

[Watchman]

16 minutes ago, ATL_BALLER said:

For the first time in a long while, we have:

• Stable, committed ownership    Say what?
• A world-class head coach   Not really.  He doesn't know when to sit people down.
• A well-regarded GM who helped architect a dynasty   Yeah right.
• No crippling contracts (Plumlee and Baze are overpaid, but not immovable)   The only way those contracts are moved is if we take back equally crappy contracts.  We might be able to trade Bazemore if we got lucky.  Plumlee?  No one is going to acquire that lousy contract.
• A sensible strategy built on flexibility to pounce when the time is right (ala Houston with Harden) What flexibility?  Plumlee?  
• Three solid young pieces as a new foundation.   Prince is ok (maybe).  Schröder is a loser. Collins is an unknown, but we know he plays no defense.
• An end to the 'treadmill' so many here have been begging for.   Losing for the next decade isn't a treadmill?

What am I missing?

 

[PacMan123]

1 minute ago, ATL_BALLER said:

• Demarre = think he's worth $15 mil per, especially the way he's played since inking that deal?
• Al = They offered him a fair deal, which he chose to decline
• Teague = Prince; quality swap
• Korver = 1st round pick; fantastic swap
• Sap = no defending this one, but that was when our coach was also making personnel decisions; in the absence of those missed assets, happy to have flexibility considering the current direction of the team

Regardless, we can hold onto regrets and missed opportunities, or see that for the first time in a while, the team has what appears to be quality leadership at the top that won't settle for mediocrity.

DeMarre - I understand it was basically Sap vs DeMarre. Hawks made correct decision here to keep Sap.

Teague - Like I said, solid exchange for a lottery pick that turned out to be Prince.

Korver- Like I said as well, solid exchange for a 1st round pick,

Sap/Horford - Getting absolutely NOTHING in return for your actual big time all stars is absolutely criminal.....

[DJlaysitup]

4 minutes ago, Dolfan23 said:

I don't think it's you that is missing something. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't truly happy unless they can wallow in misery with others... even if they're having to invent reasons to be miserable. And this is why free agents don't want to come to Atlanta because they know that fans won't support them unless they're the best team in the league.

Oh Horse Stuff Dolfan...we just went from a 60 win ECF team to a team with Dennis/Baze/Plumlee ??

For goodness sakes even you are smart enough to realize that team can't compete.

[AHF]

Just now, DJlaysitup said:

Oh Horse Stuff Dolfan...we just went from a 60 win ECF team to a team with Dennis/Baze/Plumlee ??

For goodness sakes even you are smart enough to realize that team can't compete.

We won 60 games but does anyone think that was a sustainable baseline to compare against especially after we dropped the GM that got us there?

[Plainview1981]

Shillink is a bum.

He said they were going to make an offer to Millsap and they didn't do anything. He said they wouldn't be rebuilding, but they basically are. The owner said that Sap would be back at any cost. 

Now, no matter if like Sap coming back or not, Ressler and Shillenk are not trustworthy.

[DJlaysitup]

4 minutes ago, AHF said:

We won 60 games but does anyone think that was a sustainable baseline to compare against especially after we dropped the GM that got us there?

60 wins may not be sustainable (maybe 55)...but the guys who got us there weren't on their "last legs" as professionals.  They are all playing in the league next year.

[AHF]

1 minute ago, DJlaysitup said:

60 wins may not be sustainable (maybe 55)...but the guys who got us there weren't on their "last legs" as professionals.  They are all playing in the league next year.

DMC was gone with no option that would let us keep him.  That next year those guys were all on our team and we won 48 games.  I think that crazy streak we had was us playing way over our heads.

[NBASupes]

This is the most confident I have had in organization in decades. I am 100% happy

[DJlaysitup]

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

DMC was gone with no option that would let us keep him.  That next year those guys were all on our team and we won 48 games.  I think that crazy streak we had was us playing way over our heads.

We all have opinions...what I saw was a fairly finely tuned team.  I didn't see a "crazy streak"...I saw a team that won 60 games in an 82 game season.  A "Streak" is going 10 for 12 in the middle of the season. 

[AHF]

1 minute ago, DJlaysitup said:

We all have opinions...what I saw was a fairly finely tuned team.  I didn't see a "crazy streak"...I saw a team that won 60 games in an 82 game season.  A "Streak" is going 10 for 12 in the middle of the season. 

We put together the first undefeated month in the history of the league.  That is an epic streak.

[Peoriabird]

25 minutes ago, Dolfan23 said:

I don't think it's you that is missing something. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't truly happy unless they can wallow in misery with others... even if they're having to invent reasons to be miserable. And this is why free agents don't want to come to Atlanta because they know that fans won't support them unless they're the best team in the league.

This is the best part of your statement because I swear I saw multiple posters on that tank train reverse positions as soon as Denver signed Millsap

[Watchman]

8 minutes ago, AHF said:

DMC was gone with no option that would let us keep him.  That next year those guys were all on our team and we won 48 games.  I think that crazy streak we had was us playing way over our heads.

For whatever reason, we stopped moving the ball.  That was the problem and it has continued over the next couple of years.

[AHF]

That 60 win season, we won:

• 60% of games in Oct / Nov,
• 64% of games in February,
• 60% of games in March,
• 57% of games in April
• and 50% of games in the post-season.

We won 94% of games in December and January.  I think that was playing over our heads in a big way.

 

[BrazilianHawk]

Are you high?