Nicholasp27 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Quote: When you are competing for a championship, you can't worry about showcasing tradeable assets. You do everything to maximize your chances of winning. oh come on now they would still be in 1st even if they played him 15mpg...even if he cost them 3-4 wins this year, that wouldn't hurt their championship chances...as soon as miami went without shaq for awhile and indy had no artest for awhile, they locked the home court advantage...so all they are playing for now is to have the best record in the league for finals home court...however, playing him more mins, especially earlier in games with leads, wouldn't really have hurt their record...if they lost the lead with him in it, they'd still have the 2nd half to play their game and win but if he's really decent, then he prolly wouldn't hurt them THAT much being in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 woody would give diaw several dnp-cd after he'd have a great game...diaw would be aggressive and score double digits and help us win or come back and then not play for 2-3 games...THAT'S how woody hurt diaw...THAT'S why diaw was not gonna re-sign here and considered leaving us for France so yes, woody does get some blame...diaw does as well for not shooting enough...but we'd have a better and more aggressive diaw if woody hadn't toyed with his mins like that...and we may have been able to get jj for diaw/bos and not have to throw in our pick if diaw had gotten the consistent pt and shown that he was a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Exactly. I remember when some of the fans on this board were griping about Boris's so called in ability to play in an up tempo style game. They were saying that Boris slows the action down. Woody played Boris at five positions in attempt to get him to do something. It seemed like Boris did exactly the opposite of everything Woody told him to do. Now, Boris is out in Phoenix in an up tempo style offense doing the things that Woody was trying to get him to do. I think this is clearly more on Boris than it is Woody. Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Josh Childress, Royal Ivey, and a few other young guys have had no problem fitting in to what Woody wants them to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAdams_1 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I thought Diaw sucked myself especially for a number 20 pick. I have no problem with disposing of him in the JJ trade. The ATL Spirit did what they had to do. I hope they continue. Diaw would never flourish under this system, game plan or team. I am suprised at his success because I thought he was sooooooooo bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Can't we just agree that D**W was a worthless slug and leave it at that??? I never want to see his name on this forum again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 What exactly is your expectation for a #20 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted February 17, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sorry...I just wanted to make a post with the flaming mad face. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Cromag Zaza says..Woody good...Diaw bad...Fire burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorystar Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Quote: You can let a division team still him for nothing. I wouldn't exactly say Orlando got Darko for nothing. They did give up next season's first rounder (only top five protected). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Quote: Woodson had nothing to do with Boris Diaw being a failure here. He was a failure becuase he falls into that gutless p*ssy catagory. I doubt Woody understands Euro players. He's used to being around mediocre American NBA head coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 17, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sounds like just a little resentment to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 He don't look like a gutless p*ssy in PHX.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Perhaps Diaw didn't believe in Woody... And it's easy to see why. Although the Hawks have an improved record, how much is Woody really responsable for?? What's he done that has made him a good coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Whatever happened to Boris here...he's in a better place now But we got a heckuva player in JJ out of the deal so I guess it's a win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 17, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 wtf do you know? you don't watch the games and you only come around here to troll. Be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GST Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Not only do we have Woody's judgment to draw on, we also have Herb Brown, who saw Darko up close and personal for a year, and Herb also talks to brother Larry quite frequently. We may have been in a better position than any other team to judge Darko (outside of Detroit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 I saw something pretty funny today. Chad Ford says that if Darko had stayed overseas and not entered the draft that he would surely be the Number 1 pick now. I like most of Fords stuff but he overrates the euros so much it is a joke. People buy into it here because they don't see them play. If they saw them play then people would pick them apart just like they do the top college players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 18, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 I agree with Ford from this perspective. NBA GMs are willing to draft the unknown. That's why Darko went ahead of Wade and Mello. That's why Williams went ahead of Paul. That's why for a while, HSers dominated the draft... The less that your game can be picked apart, the better... I think many of the Euro players have the luxury of staying overseas and playing against lesser competition and never having their games picked apart the same way that many college players will. I think Stern's new rule will help end the guess work in getting these HSers... But at the same time, there needs to be something done about EURO players. Because there will be another Darko. Another Highly publicized great Euro player that comes over and washes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Quote: I think Stern's new rule will help end the guess work in getting these HSers... I think that was the main motivation all along. GM's kept making expensive mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Quote: I think that was the main motivation all along. GM's kept making expensive mistakes. He's made no secret that it's that, and having less players learning the game. He would prefer a 20 year old age limit. The NBA should be for the best players in the world, not players hoping to become the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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