TroyMcClure Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Who's for giving Belkin a chance now? I'm sure there is a poll from the past to compare to. I'm not going to argue for or against. You know where I stand. Fell free to do so you for yourselves, though. Could he be any worse than the ASG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Money Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 The one thing the ASG held over Belkin was that they weren't meddling in basketball affairs and letting BK and Bernie do their jobs... ...so much for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Can we just get rid of them both? How about they move the team and we get an expansion team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatertots Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I voted not so much 'for' the ASG but against Belkin. Back when I lived in Atlanta I worked at Starbucks, and one of my coworker's best friends had a job in the Hawks front office. His buddy stopped by pretty regularly and one of the things he'd always mention is how much everyone, and I mean everyone, hated Steve Belkin. When he got forced out, they all celebrated. It's impossible to get along with everyone, but when you can't get along with anyone? I can't see that being an improvement for the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted March 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Has it crossed your mind that all of those people that dislike him will be unemployed if and when he gains control of the team? That pretty much fixes the problem. Truth be told, there are probably only a small handful of people in the organization that deserve to be retained. I'm talking all the way down to the ushers. We need new blood. Anything that comes from this group is destined to be shortsighted and an abject failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncthompson11 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 as long as belkin doesnt move the team from atlanta hes fine with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted March 8, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Belkin will not improve this team. Its replacing a bad situation with something much much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted March 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: Belkin will not improve this team. Its replacing a bad situation with something much much worse. All direct evidence supports the opposite opinion. We simply couldn't be less signifigant as an franchise. Steve Belkin could be the devil himself(not that there is one) and i would welcome it. We need change. Even if Belkin simply wants to sell the team. That's an option, I would assume. Do you want indefinite ASG run teams? These are your options. Be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 If you want the team to be run at the lowest possible payroll and on the cheap, then go ahead and support Steve Belkin. Steve Belkin will not bring success to the Hawks. The Hawks have a much better chance of being successful with ASG because at least Gearon is a fan of the Hawks. Steve Belkin has no interest in the Hawks. His only interest is joining the club of NBA owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: I voted not so much 'for' the ASG but against Belkin. Back when I lived in Atlanta I worked at Starbucks, and one of my coworker's best friends had a job in the Hawks front office. His buddy stopped by pretty regularly and one of the things he'd always mention is how much everyone, and I mean everyone, hated Steve Belkin. When he got forced out, they all celebrated. It's impossible to get along with everyone, but when you can't get along with anyone? I can't see that being an improvement for the franchise. Sounds like Bobby Petrino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 8, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: Belkin will not improve this team. Its replacing a bad situation with something much much worse. Maybe. But what I do know for sure is that things can't go on like this... I don't know how much more of this my liver can take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted March 8, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 We will become the LA Clippers where the team is not allowed to acquire any contracts. ASG has allowed for Joe and Bibby. They do wnat to win. We are stuck with this terrible coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 It's obvious now that neither the ASG or Belkin are right for this team and both of them will cause us to perform at less than peak performance so there really is no right choice. You just grin and bear the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatertots Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: Has it crossed your mind that all of those people that dislike him will be unemployed if and when he gains control of the team? That pretty much fixes the problem. Truth be told, there are probably only a small handful of people in the organization that deserve to be retained. I'm talking all the way down to the ushers. We need new blood. Anything that comes from this group is destined to be shortsighted and an abject failure. Yeah, I did consider that, TMC, but I disagree that firing everyone who dislikes you, when everyone dislikes you, is a viable solution. The problem isn't with the people who can't get along with Belkin, the problem is that Belkin can't get along with other people, and that's not something that you can fix just by letting go of the malcontents. Even if Belkin hired new people, I get the sense that it would only be a matter of time before he alienated them as well. We've all had our share of lousy bosses and great bosses, and the biggest problem with the lousy boss, from an organizational/franchise standpoint, is that they never get the most out of people. Now, that's one thing when the people that work for you are dime a dozen college students slingin' coffee at the local Starbucks (although it's still not a good thing). But a great general managers and coaches aren't dime a dozen resources; they are hard to find and even harder to keep if everyone the owner meets instinctively comes to the conclusion that the guy's a grade A douchebag. Again, this isn't an endorsement of the ASG or anything they've done to this point. They're by far the worst ownership group in Atlanta, especially now that AOLTW doesn't own the Braves anymore. If I were giving them grades, they got straight F's, failed out of college, got a job as a night clerk at QT, moved into their boozehound divorcee mother's basement and spent the rest of their lives smoking cheap Mexican brick weed. I can't stand the ASG. I just don't think Belkin could do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I absolutely cannot stand the ASG and they obviously are inept. But there is no way I could endorse Belkin who doesn't give a rats ass about this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 8, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: We will become the LA Clippers where the team is not allowed to acquire any contracts. ASG has allowed for Joe and Bibby. They do wnat to win. We are stuck with this terrible coach. The Clippers have made the playoffs in the last 9 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 The ASG is so incompetant that Belkin could do no worse. What can be worse than employing a coach when the entire universe is aware that he sucks and is not up to the job. My question is this: Why does Woodson deserve to continue as our coach when the evidence against him is so damning? Gearon hangs onto Woodson at all costs. His dedication to Woodson is a huge reason why the ASG have no more credibility. I knew in Woodsons first year that he was wrong. He made mistakes that good coaches don't make. The ASG said youth was why we were losing not Woodson. Then, we got banged up and it was the injuries. Then, it was that Woody never had a PG. So, what is it now? Why does this team suck so bad? 1. We arent that young anymore 2. We have had great health all year 3. We have a PG (though he can't guard a door) Why does Woodson still lose? Answer: Because he sucks and the players and fans know he sucks. So why does Gearon still employ him? Anyone who supports Gearon and Co. don't have a lick of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Totally wrong AtlaS....no offence but Belkin is the only "basketball man" in this crew. We would be MUCH better off with Belkin as our (sole) owner. BK would be fired - Woody would be fired. and by the way - I am so sick and flocking tired of people saying that Belkin was flocking up the JJ trade - - - he WASN"T...all he was doing was protecting assets. If Belkin had his way we would still have Joe "30 wins" Johnson and we would have our 1st round draft pick this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: The ASG is so incompetant that Belkin could do no worse. What can be worse than employing a coach when the entire universe is aware that he sucks and is not up to the job. My question is this: Why does Woodson deserve to continue as our coach when the evidence against him is so damning? Gearon hangs onto Woodson at all costs. His dedication to Woodson is a huge reason why the ASG have no more credibility. I knew in Woodsons first year that he was wrong. He made mistakes that good coaches don't make. The ASG said youth was why we were losing not Woodson. Then, we got banged up and it was the injuries. Then, it was that Woody never had a PG. So, what is it now? Why does this team suck so bad? 1. We arent that young anymore 2. We have had great health all year 3. We have a PG (though he can't guard a door) Why does Woodson still lose? Answer: Because he sucks and the players and fans know he sucks. So why does Gearon still employ him? Anyone who supports Gearon and Co. don't have a lick of sense. I agree completely with everything you have said, I wanted Woody gone 3 years ago. But just because the ATL Spirit sucks doesn't mean Belkin will make things better, he won't. It would be like trading Zaza for Brian Scalabrine. I'd rather not have either of them, but I'd rather at least have the one that "somewhat" cares about the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Quote: Totally wrong AtlaS....no offence but Belkin is the only "basketball man" in this crew. We would be MUCH better off with Belkin as our (sole) owner. BK would be fired - Woody would be fired. Belkin would hire his own POS GM and make us the Clippers East and not spend any money. We would not get better. Quote: and by the way - I am so sick and flocking tired of people saying that Belkin was flocking up the JJ trade - - - he WASN"T...all he was doing was protecting assets. If Belkin had his way we would still have Joe "30 wins" Johnson and we would have our 1st round draft pick this year. I'd rather have JJ than Diaw and a mid first rounder, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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