Josh Smith vs. The World.

[Admin]

Griffin always get the best of us. He is an offensive talent, he can score at will even without a go to move. Love is much better with Rubio. Rubio create a lot of open looks and favorable positions for Love. I didn't see what was so special when LMA played Smith. If LMA won the match-up, the team defense Smith played was critical as well which goes back to my point. We all know all four of these guys are extremely talented but why give credit to just them and not Smith. What he is doing is special as well. He is the only player since KG in 04 to have the numbers he had this year.Not to mention CP3 is his PG.

Hard to say whether Love got better this year with Rubio as his FGAs went up a lot and he more than doubled his 3pt attempts. His rebounds and FG% both went down a lot this year. Griffin was actually better prior to CP3.

With the exception of Ibaka.

I think with OKC it was more of a team thing as Ibaka is actually a pretty average positional defender. But he and Perkins together form a very solid defensive frontcourt.

[Joker]

I always felt he struggled v. tough minded defenders. He reminds me so much of Vince Carter. Just different positions.

[Joker]

Hard to say whether Love got better this year with Rubio as his FGAs went up a lot and he more than doubled his 3pt attempts. His rebounds and FG% both went down a lot this year.Griffin was actually better prior to CP3.I think with OKC it was more of a team thing as Ibaka is actually a pretty average positional defender. But he and Perkins together form a very solid defensive frontcourt.

Griffin looked a lot better this year than last year.Ibaka is a bigger Tyrus Thomas. I personally think he is in the perfect situation. There are about 10 PF's who can do what Ibaka doing that on NBA teams benches. I petty the fool that offers Ibaka a big contract. He's replaceable to me.

[coachx]

Griffin always get the best of us. He is an offensive talent, he can score at will even without a go to move. Love is much better with Rubio. Rubio create a lot of open looks and favorable positions for Love. I didn't see what was so special when LMA played Smith. If LMA won the match-up, the team defense Smith played was critical as well which goes back to my point. We all know all four of these guys are extremely talented but why give credit to just them and not Smith. What he is doing is special as well. He is the only player since KG in 04 to have the numbers he had this year.

Josh had his best year this season. He plays with a lot of heart but little brains.Love and Aldridge don't make the mental errors that Smith repeatedly makes. As another poster said today..........they simply have a different mental approach to the game. They have the common sense to know what their strengths and weaknesses are and to play to their strengths and avoid their weakness. Edited June 7, 2012 by coachx

[Jody23]

<p>In all fairness, there probably isn't a PF in the game capable of stopping Blake.</p><p> </p><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="tablehead" border="1"> <tbody> <tr class="colhead"> <td> By Opponent</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Games Played"> GP</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Minutes Per Game"> MIN</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Field Goals Made-Attempted Per Game"> FGM-FGA</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Field Goal Percentage"> FG%</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="3-Point Field Goals Made-Attempted Per Game"> 3PM-3PA</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="3-Point Field Goal Percentage"> 3P%</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Free Throws Made-Attempted Per Game"> FTM-FTA</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Free Throw Percentage"> FT%</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Offensive Rebounds Per Game"> OR</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Defensive Rebounds Per Game"> DR</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Rebounds Per Game"> REB</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Assists Per Game"> AST</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Blocks Per Game"> BLK</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Steals Per Game"> STL</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Personal Fouls Per Game"> PF</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Turnovers Per Game"> TO</td> <td style="text-align:right;" title="Points Per Game"> PTS</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Atlanta</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 35.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0-16.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .688</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0-4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .500</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 24.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Boston</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 35.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-15.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .600</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-8.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .750</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 24.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Charlotte</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 31.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0-14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .500</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0-8.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .875</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 21.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Chicago</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 42.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 14.0-25.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .560</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .600</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 13.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 34.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Cleveland</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 37.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0-16.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .500</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .900</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 15.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 25.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Dallas</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 37.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.3-14.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .512</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7-7.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .227</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 13.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 16.3</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Denver</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 34.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0-14.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .552</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5-6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .417</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 18.5</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Detroit</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 39.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0-13.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .538</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0-7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .429</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 17.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Golden State</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 34.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.8-15.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .574</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.0-10.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .488</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 22.5</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Houston</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 33.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.3-14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .524</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3-6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .556</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 18.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Indiana</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 35.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0-18.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .556</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0-1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0-7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .286</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 23.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. LA Lakers</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 38.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.7-18.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .518</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7-4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .417</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 12.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 21.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Miami</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 41.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-23.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .391</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0-1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0-4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .250</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 12.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 20.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Milwaukee</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 40.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0-15.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .533</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .545</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 22.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Minnesota</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 37.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-17.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .514</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-10.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .558</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 24.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. New Jersey</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 39.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-15.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .600</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.5-15.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .500</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 15.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 25.5</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. New Orleans</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 35.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.3-13.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .564</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-10.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .581</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 20.7</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. New York</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 41.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0-14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .786</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0-14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .500</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 29.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Oklahoma City</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 34.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.3-14.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .439</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0-4.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .632</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 15.5</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Orlando</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 45.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .545</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .857</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 18.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Philadelphia</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 40.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0-19.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .421</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 16.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Phoenix</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 35.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.5-18.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .521</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3-4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .563</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.8</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 21.3</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Portland</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 38.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.0-14.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .561</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.8-6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .625</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 12.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 19.8</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Sacramento</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 34.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.7-12.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .684</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0-4.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .231</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 18.3</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. San Antonio</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 37.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0-17.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .529</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.7-5.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .647</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 12.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 21.7</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Utah</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 33.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.7-16.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .580</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3-4.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .538</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 21.7</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Washington</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 33.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 10.0-17.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .588</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.0-6.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .333</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 13.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.5</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 22.0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow"> <td> vs. Toronto</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 31.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-11.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .545</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.0-14.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .429</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 9.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 18.0</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow"> <td> vs. Memphis</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 37.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 7.7-12.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .622</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.0-0.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .000</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 4.3-7.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> .565</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 6.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 8.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 5.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 1.0</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 0.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.3</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 2.7</td> <td style="text-align:right;"> 19.7</td> </tr> </tbody></table><p> </p>

I agree, but my point is Josh isn't this "elite" defender or player some make him out to be. Very good, but not "elite".

[Admin]

I agree, but my point is Josh isn't this "elite" defender or player some make him out to be. Very good, but not "elite".

He's FAR from an elite defender. Outside of Horford nobody else on our team is in his league as a post defender though.

[Joker]

Josh had his best year this season. He plays with a lot of heart but little brains.Rose and Aldridge don't make the mental errors that Smith repeatedly makes. As another poster said today..........they simply have a different mental approach to the game. They have the common sense to know what their strengths and weaknesses are and to play to their strengths and avoid their weakness.

He has defensive brains, his offensive brain is terrible. I said it awhile back, the less he touches the ball, the better the offense. Bibby showed you how to use Smith but you have to the PG to do it. You can't just say it, that won't work. Smith is too hardheaded.LMA doesn't make mental mistakes. Mentally, he is that dude. Talent wise, I like Smith better. He is more versatile.

[Jody23]

He's FAR from an elite defender. Outside of Horford nobody else on our team is in his league as a post defender though.

I agree, although I think Horford is a better positional defender in the post and Collins does okay position wise as well. Stats could prove me wrong though.

[Buzzard]

He's FAR from an elite defender. Outside of Horford nobody else on our team is in his league as a post defender though.

So he is a good post defender only when compared to bad post defenders. This is why his value is so high by Hawks fans and not by other GMs around the league. Even a player such as Gasol, who many fans see as soft, is valued by other GMs more than Smoove.If we had Gasol these past 7 years instead of Smoove, damn now that would have been great.

[Jody23]

He has defensive brains, his offensive brain is terrible. I said it awhile back, the less he touches the ball, the better the offense. Bibby showed you how to use Smith but you have to the PG to do it. You can't just say it, that won't work. Smith is too hardheaded.LMA doesn't make mental mistakes. Mentally, he is that dude. Talent wise, I like Smith better. He is more versatile.

If I'm picking a 4, give me the 6'11 guy with the legit back to the basket game over the 6'8 athlete.

[EazyRoc]

If I'm picking a 4, give me the 6'11 guy with the legit back to the basket game over the 6'8 athlete.

LMA is a face up player with a much better jumpshot. Not a back to the basket traditional post player.

[EazyRoc]

I don't know what it takes to be elite, but Smith has consistently been in the top 10 when coaches.vote for DPOY. He's made one defensive team, and probably should have made one this season too.

[coachx]

LMA is a face up player with a much better jumpshot. Not a back to the basket traditional post player.

Actually........he can do both. That is what makes him so good. You can run an offense through him in more then one way.

[coachx]

So he is a good post defender only when compared to bad post defenders. This is why his value is so high by Hawks fans and not by other GMs around the league. Even a player such as Gasol, who many fans see as soft, is valued by other GMs more than Smoove.If we had Gasol these past 7 years instead of Smoove, damn now that would have been great.

A few of us wanted to trade Smith to Memphis for Gasol 5 years ago. Edited June 7, 2012 by coachx

[Jody23]

LMA is a face up player with a much better jumpshot. Not a back to the basket traditional post player.

No, Aldridge indeed is pretty good in the low post.

[lethalweapon3]

Josh Smith is being proclaimed as a tier 1 player by some here.I am wondering is this homerism?So I have compiled some guys that never ever get tier 1 billing. The question, is Josh Better than them?Josh Smith vs.....BargnaniMilsapAldrichDavid LeeHumphriesGlenn DavisWEST

LOL my neighbor just heard me screaming out loud, "Cole Aldrich?!?!" #lamarcus~lw3

[Buzzard]

LMA is a face up player with a much better jumpshot. Not a back to the basket traditional post player.

Aldridge these past two years has been a beast. And anyone who has watched Portland play would know this. He lit the league up two seasons ago playing the 5 spot when both Camby and Oden went down, dude has not missed a beat since.

[Joker]

LMA is the American Gasol. Both aren't elite at really anything and are Robins. Both are offensive versatile and play well with the team. This is my example of two Robins on the same team. Roy and LMA. Two Robins don't work. They get in each others way.

Aldridge these past two years has been a beast. And anyone who has watched Portland play would know this. He lit the league up two seasons ago playing the 5 spot when both Camby and Oden went down, dude has not missed a beat since.

LMA is mainly a face up player but he can do both, I wouldn't call him a beast at anything.I remember the time he played 5 for that period, he played extremely well but you can use streaks for Smoove and Horf. Streaks don't mean anything if you can't maintain it. Edited June 7, 2012 by Joker

[Joker]

This really sucks, you can ask Hawks89, I am really not pro Josh but you anti-Josh guys are crazy. Trying to place him with Glen Davis of all players. I used to be the only one on the no Josh express at one point.

[Admin]

LMA is the American Gasol. Both aren't elite at really anything and are Robins. Both are offensive versatile and play well with the team. This is my example of two Robins on the same team. Roy and LMA. Two Robins don't work. They get in each others way.LMA is mainly a face up player but he can do both, I wouldn't call him a beast at anything.

You say these things like teams choose to not have a "Batman" ... and golly gee willikers I'm getting tired of this analogy... when the truth is that there are very few non-Robin stars in this league.

This really sucks, you can ask Hawks89, I am really not pro Josh but you anti-Josh guys are crazy. Trying to place him with Glen Davis of all players. I used to be the only one on the no Josh express at one point.

Has ANYONE in this thread said that Davis is equal to Josh?