Final Verdict On Trae/Luka Trade

[Peoriabird]

7 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Respond to my quote and quit deflecting. Why can't someone have a negative take about Trae? He isnt perfect. Some may see places for him to improve and why do you dislike Cam so much? He hasn't played one second of NBA basketball. We dont know who or what Cam is, yet at every turn you throw your slight jabs at him.

Just saying you are the pot calling the kettle black.

It is okay for you to critize or have a negative take, but the minute someone else does it is ALL y'all Hawks fans are just so negative. Nah homie.

What is there to criticize about Trae? I don't hate Cam..There is no evidence that Cam will be the NBA's version of Randy Moss but where have I stated that I hate Cam?

[AHF]

This trend of examining our fellow posters is not what this site is about.  Let's refocus.

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[bleachkit]

Cam is really the x-factor in the trade. I'm really curious to see how he looks in game, very talented but very inconsistent in his one year at Duke. My guess is CLP does not put too much on his plate year 1. Just play some D and hit open shots. I don't think he will be asked to do much point-forward type stuff.

[JayBirdHawk]

52 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Cam is really the x-factor in the trade. I'm really curious to see how he looks in game, very talented but very inconsistent in his one year at Duke. My guess is CLP does not put too much on his plate year 1. Just play some D and hit open shots. I don't think he will be asked to do much point-forward type stuff.

CLP said initially he didn't think Cam would play point but then in Friday presser he said Bembry, Huerter and Reddish will be doing some ball handling behind Trae.

My guess is it'll depend on Cam's overall progress with the basics.

[Thomas]

Trae certainly seems excited about Cam already. Talking about him easily scoring at all levels in camp.

[Buzzard]

I think Trae outperforms Luka this season but agree, we are 5-10 years away from a final verdict.

[Spud2nique]

Trae and Luka honestly have that 80’s Magic/Bird thing going on.

 

I’m glad we have Magic!  

[bleachkit]

I'll say this much, I don't think Zion will have nearly the rookie season that Luka or Trae had, at least not statistically.

Edited October 4, 2019 by bleachkit

[Thomas]

45 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

I'll say this much, I don't think Zion will have nearly the rookie season that Luka or Trae had, at least not statistically.

Agreed and believe the cuisine will have something to do with it. Buffets every frackin where. Example = Grand Buffet New Orleans.