JTB Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: There is no deal for me with Okongwu in it. Not for Murray. He's not Durant. You add picks, they said they want a Jrue Holiday like deal. Do it. Well I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. Maybe if the spurs are still in love with Bogi we add a JC + Bogi and future first rd picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted June 23, 2022 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Murray is an amazing fit but I will not be happy with OO going out. His touch around the rim is elite and his instincts on defense are not teachable. He's going to get better and better every year. I really hope we do not ship him out. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, GameTime said: "Hawks need dogs" He said that? Wow, that’s like 2 things in a week similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, JTB said: Funny because I mentioned getting Murray would cost us JC AND OO like 10 pages ago when it was first mentioned on this board. I love the Murray pairing but I know to get him the spurs are going to rob a team and that team may be us! OO+JC +Picks…..sheesh and I kept asking is Murray worth it for us to have a disaster at PF. Guess that question is about to be answered soon. You did say this....lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kirschner on Twitter spaces just characterized talks as ongoing with the Murray deal. Need Schlenk to get the JC, Filler, 2 FRP deal done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Q45T said: He’s gotten better every year. He averaged 21 pts, 9 asts, led the league in steals and was a first time all-star last year. What the hell are you talking about? On a losing team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, JTB said: Yea but it literally creates another big hole at PF. Exactly. Delusional. Murray ain't worth that. I think some doofuses are so happy to get a guard as thats their #1 dream, everyone is expendable in their eyes. They forget. This is a big man type team that plays through our bigs and quality bigs are hard to find in this league. Don't get it twisted, I don't mind trading Okongwu for Murray but that's it. If you want picks or other players, you don't want Okongwu then. It's that simple. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted June 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Simple analysis. Do you win the trade. Not "do I get new toys." Do. You. Win. The. Trade. I don't see it in what we're hearing so far. JC's value is not this inferior... even barely... to one-year wonder Murray's... this time last year, people were even questioning what SAS could get for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) I don't want Murray if he's gonna cost us our soul. f*** that. He's not that good Edited June 23, 2022 by NBASupes 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 @Wretch OO involved? Your thoughts? 🎙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 @hazer talk to us!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 play in stats Date OPP Result MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Sun 4/10 @DAL L 130-120 32 5-15 33.3 1-6 16.7 6-6 100.0 1 7 0 3 2 2 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marco102 Posted June 23, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'm just going to stay quiet. There's a chance if they move JC and Bogi, they can still have Ayton. Ayton, JJ/OO, Hunter, Murrary, Young That's the perfect mix of offense and defense. My goodness! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Imagine what pops would do with OO? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Spud2nique said: Imagine what pops would do with OO? Exactly, it's would be Amare all over again. Easy pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, sturt said: Simple analysis. Do you win the trade. Not "do I get new toys." Do. You. Win. The. Trade. I don't see it in what we're hearing so far. JC's value is not this inferior... even barely... to one-year wonder Murray's... this time last year, people were even questioning what SAS could get for the guy. But Murray's skillset next to Trae is the perfect compliment. Murrary can guard 1 -3. Playmake, attack the rim. His three point shooting is the only real question, but he's a decent spot up shooter and Trae can get him those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Is Murray really that great?. His shooting splits are meh, and this last year is the only year of his career he has averaged more than 20 PPG. Didnt get SAS to the playoffs. Good player, dont think he's worth a godfather offer. When I proposed the Hawks trade for Murray back in December, I had the Hawks giving up Hunter, Okongwu and Huerter to the Spurs for Murray. I knew it would take that much to get Murray and ship him to the Nets for Kyrie. The trade on the table basically substitutes Collins for Hunter and a draft pick for Huerter. My thinking now is the Spurs want to draft TyTy Washington from Kentucky to run the backcourt and that pick from the Hawks is being used somewhere else. Edited June 23, 2022 by Hawkmoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: Exactly. Delusional. Murray ain't worth that. I think some doofuses are so happy to get a guard as thats their #1 dream, everyone is expendable in their eyes. They forget. This is a big man type team that plays through our bigs and quality bigs are hard to find in this league. Don't get it twisted, I don't mind trading Okongwu for Murray but that's it. If you want picks or other players, you don't want Okongwu then. It's that simple. Exactly that’s why I didn’t get as excited as I wanted to get because I just don’t believe it’s going to be a fair trade and then the fact that Trae plays through his bigs is a big deal in all of this. Can’t give up JC and OO in the same deal even if we got gobert or Ayton losing both OO and JC would hurt …a lot. it would be a big ass hole that’s hard to overcome even if you upgrade SG and Center positions . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, marco102 said: Ayton, JJ/OO, Hunter, Murrary, Young 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, NBASupes said: Exactly, it's would be Amare all over again. Easy pass Supes you're such an emotional roller coaster...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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