I hope the Siakam deal fails to go through.

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

Peoria, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

As long as we lose, peo wins because it gives him something to complain about.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, kg01 said:

As long as we lose, peo wins because it gives him something to complain about.

So we are guaranteed to lose even with young and Murray on the team?

[kg01]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

So we are guaranteed to lose even with young and Murray on the team?

No but I know, no matter what, you're gonna find something to complain about. 

[Peoriabird]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

No but I know, no matter what, you're gonna find something to complain about. 

What am I even complaining about now?

[kg01]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

What am i even complaining about now?

Exactly. 

[Peoriabird]

Just now, kg01 said:

Exactly. 

????

[Peoriabird]

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

2 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

So we are guaranteed to lose even with young and Murray on the team?

 

Define "lose".

We'll make the playoffs.  But we may not go very far, if we're solely relying on Trae and DJ.  We need more frontcourt punch.

We'll be Portland South, when they had Dame and CJ.

 

[RedDawg#8]

Most teams make it deep in the playoffs with a 7-man rotation playing major minutes. 

We are 10 deep as is even without replacing JC in the lineup.

A 3 for 1 trade still gives us 8 above average rotational pieces before getting in to the rooks and G-Leaguers.

That puts us on track with most of the contenders in regards to depth.

We need more high level talent to off-set some of our youth and overlapping skillsets.

We need a low post presence on offence to take pressure off our guards and perimeter shooting.

Whoever we decide to move, we have his replacement on the roster already. 

[Diesel]

1 minute ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Whoever we decide to move, we have his replacement on the roster already. 

Yeah if we were playing Dr. J vs. Larry Bird  and it didn't matter what actual skillsets a player has.

[Peoriabird]

Marc Stein later goes on to talk more in depth about Siakam to Atlanta rumors, saying:

Stein: Pascal Siakam, the resistance to a trade to Atlanta has really been on his side. Precisely where the Raptors fall in terms of trading Pascal Siakam has been a lot harder to pinpoint as it often is with the Raptors.

The most consistent rumbles there have been that that Hawks had been very interested in a trade for Siakam and that Siakam has been resistant to it. The message has been sent, whispered — and even louder than whispered — that Siakam wouldn’t really be interested in a contract extension if the Hawks were to move [for] him. And we’ll see now what impact signing Murray has on that pursuit from the Hawks on Siakam.

[theheroatl]

22 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Marc Stein later goes on to talk more in depth about Siakam to Atlanta rumors, saying:

Stein: Pascal Siakam, the resistance to a trade to Atlanta has really been on his side. Precisely where the Raptors fall in terms of trading Pascal Siakam has been a lot harder to pinpoint as it often is with the Raptors.

The most consistent rumbles there have been that that Hawks had been very interested in a trade for Siakam and that Siakam has been resistant to it. The message has been sent, whispered — and even louder than whispered — that Siakam wouldn’t really be interested in a contract extension if the Hawks were to move [for] him. And we’ll see now what impact signing Murray has on that pursuit from the Hawks on Siakam.

Old news sorry Peoria…

 

If anything the situation is probably a trade agreed but waiting on Bufkin status.

Things went quiet. If they didn’t have a trade lined up we’d hear more smoke and teams interest and more smoke of new rumors like Brooklyn or Charlotte or Sacramento.

If they figured they would extend him or wait until the trade deadline we’d hear that too because we would hear Siakams amateur agents feeding Chris Haynes with nonsense.

It just figures there is some agreement in place that includes Bufkin cause all the news is old now.

Capela and Dre have been super quiet and that isn’t normal for them.

Edited July 19, 2023 by theheroatl

[JayBirdHawk]

No interest in overpaying for Siakam! 

This though....

 

 

[theheroatl]

13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

No interest in overpaying for Siakam! 

This though....

 

 

That's certainly an underrated part of the whole thing is the passing ability of our frontcourt. We need better passing there. Often the ball went into a black hole down there.

Edited July 20, 2023 by theheroatl

[Peoriabird]

26 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

No interest in overpaying for Siakam! 

This though....

 

 

Unfair comparison because Toronto doesn't have a ball dominate point guard...Atlanta has 2

[warcore]

27 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

No interest in overpaying for Siakam! 

This though....

 

 

Well that's a nice bit of info. But sadly, I think it more highlights how poor JC, Dre and CC are at kicking the ball out of traffic. They tend to just throw it up into the abyss then raise their arms and open their mouth. 

[warcore]

29 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

No interest in overpaying for Siakam! 

This though....

 

 

I also think JJ would have similar numbers if given that many minutes.

[Peoriabird]

Y'all act like this team runs its offense through the low or high post!   This team almost never runs the offense through the post

[kg01]

23 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Y'all act like this team runs its offense through the low or high post!   This team almost never run the offense through the post

.... because they can't.  Thats the problem.

[AHF]

20 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Y'all act like this team runs its offense through the low or high post!   This team almost never run the offense through the post

Look at the difference between JJ and those guys.  We didn't change the offense for JJ but then you see JJ doubling the assist rates of the other guys:

That is because JJ is a more gifted passer and nothing else.

Siakam would absolutely do more playmaking than DH, JC and CC on our team even if he didn't match his totals from last year when the offense revolved around him more than it would here.

Siakam was a 5.6 A/36 and 24.9% AST% player last season which is a dramatic shift from our other players.