DrReality Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Here is an interesting alternative from the same Hawk's board: Yeah, the only way I see the Lakers deal working, is with them NOT protecting their 1st rounder (or including player useful to Hawks such as Smush), and a third team with a trade exception joining in who needs a rotation big (NJ maybe?), and is willing to give up either a lotto protected pick or collection of 2nd's...So maybe Lakers send Mihm + Smush+Mckie + money (to buyout Mckie) + 1st Lakers get Harrington (and maybe Lue if Smush is involved) NJ sends heavily protected 1st NJ receives Mihm Atl S&t Harrington (6 yr 57 mil w/starting Sal 7.6 mil) and maybe Lue Atl receives Smush+ Mckie + money + picks w/Lue traded Hawks look like PG Claxton/Smush/Ivey SG JJ/Childress/SS SF J. Smith/Childress/S. Jones PF Marvin/ Shelden/ E. Batista C Zaza/Wright/Edwards This could be an attractive deal since we dont take back any serious contracts, get a big pg and picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: In a Nutshell...Andrew Bynum is an UNPROVEN player. Most 18 Y/Os are. Having seen him though I have very little doubts about him being a 2-way dominant center in the future. Having seen Al and Childress, I know one won't ever play for us again and the other is moderately talented where we don't need him and won't resign with us for a seat on the bench. Any questions? Quote: Giving away two proven commodities like Al Harrington and Josh Chilldress just because we can would be foolish. No. Believing this team as currently constructed can win anything of importance. Foolish. Believing there is a better prospect at center that is remotely available, that suits our talent needs any better, and as a catalyst would free up our entire team. Foolish. Believing there is such a player who is in his rookie contract and who would bring expiring contracts that fit our deisre and the court order's mandate. FOOLISH! Thinking that Al will ever play for us or return anything of real value. FOOL-ISH! Thinking Childress will play more than 25 MPG and more imiportantly will resign with us. F-ING FOOLISH! Believing that talent equity is more important than a better (designed) team. FA-FA-FA-FOOLISH! Quote: It would be one thing if we're trading for Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudamire, You won't get any of those players. Next. Quote: but we're talking about a kid from HS who's only claim to fame as far as I can tell is dunking on a 34 year old Shaq. Actually, he was a 9th overall draft pick despite being 17 YO at the time. He's also a badass for a young center. It's the last position to develop and he's way ahead of the curve along with having every physical attribute needed and many more skills than most current NBA Cs. Quote: You are trading away 2 of our most valueable assets for something that MIGHT work out. Exactly, because I know our "assets" for us won't work out and our team as constructed won't work out. Very astute. I am taking a good chance on maybe over a bad chance of never. Moreover, 7' prospect centers always have value (Eddie Curry, 2 HIGH 1st rd picks) and we aren't taking back contracts. How is this a RISK at all? W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 The big question is is why do we want Smush? Lue is a much better player, shooter, and clutch performer. In fact it was Smush's inability to hit open jumpers that hastened the Lakers' exit from the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: I can't imagine even BK in his alternate reality of "the vision" turning down Bynum to pick up a career underachiever in Mihm. If BK would take Mihm over Bynum I think he should be fired on the spot. Not questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: Chris Mihm has put up a 15.72 and a 15.32 PER rating in the past two years. He's also averaged right at 15.7 P/40 and 10.4 R/40 in those two years. He's actually developed into an average NBA big man, which was something I didn't think he would do when he was a younger player in Cleveland. Brian Cook is the sleeper prize though. This guy posted a PER rating over 16 this past season and has improved in each year he's been in the league. Brian Cook is a 6'9", 250 lbs power forward that has great range on his jump shot. Both of these guys shoot the ball very well. Mihm's true shooting percentage this past season was over 55%, while Cook's was 57%. Brian Cook plays ball like a little girl.. Who cares if the guy is big if he doesn't use it? He doesn't grab any rebounds and doesn't play inside. Mihm? Another white stiff who looked better than he is because he played next to Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: Cook is a power forward so he would back up Sheldon. If Mihm/Cook is the deal then Smoove and Marvin will definitely have to fight over the minutes at small forward. Would that mean Batista gets cut or sent to the D-league along with Soloman? Power Forward? Where's the POWER in Brian Cooks game? He should be in the WNBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: Quote: Cook is a power forward so he would back up Sheldon. If Mihm/Cook is the deal then Smoove and Marvin will definitely have to fight over the minutes at small forward. Would that mean Batista gets cut or sent to the D-league along with Soloman? Power Forward? Where's the POWER in Brian Cooks game? He should be in the WNBA. Cook sucks!! Agree, Cook is soooo soft and he plays like a little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 7, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: Al is bye, bye and to many here his loss is addition by subtraction. JC is our 3rd string Sf. Didn't you learn anything from Diaw? It's not smart to trade a player simply based on their value to US? You have to consider a player's worth PERIOD. Right now, Al is worth far more than Bynum and so is Chillz. But you want to give both for Bynum... that's crazy. Talk about giving away your birthright for a pot of stew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 7, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 A trade with the Lakers would have to include Chris Mihm. So, adding Mihm AND Wright means the Brian Cook is not as necessary as before. Instead, Sasha Vujacic makes more sense. I know, I know, he's nothing special, but he's filler. Plus, he has 3 pt. range (60% in the playoffs), plays hard on defense, and has the size and playmaking skills to play next to Salim. (Goodbye, Royal Ivey, in other words). From the Lakers: Mihm, McKie, Vujacic, 1st round pick (limited protection), $3M in cash From the Hawks: Al Harrington, John Edwards You could also add in Royal Ivey and Von Wafer (non-guaranteed contract) if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 You took the words out of my mouth about Mihm. If he proves he is healthy then we can deal him come dec 15th or by the trade deadline. Some team will want a big and if Mihm plays well we can get a 1st round pick. He is an expiring contract too so he will have suiters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Man Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: A trade with the Lakers would have to include Chris Mihm. So, adding Mihm AND Wright means the Brian Cook is not as necessary as before. Instead, Sasha Vujacic makes more sense. I know, I know, he's nothing special, but he's filler. Plus, he has 3 pt. range (60% in the playoffs), plays hard on defense, and has the size and playmaking skills to play next to Salim. (Goodbye, Royal Ivey, in other words). i really like sasha's game and he's 6'7". not too many pg's with his size and skills. we could use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountain_jim Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Over at Sekou's blog at AJC someone was saying they heard the radio interview and the Bobcats were also potentially involved in a 3-way and Mihm and Cook might be going to them in that scenario, with Hawks getting their draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 I doubt we could get a Bobcats 1st rounder unless it was heavily protected...Besides that, the Bobcats have Okafor, Breznec, May, and still hold Ely's rights..Why would they want Mihm and Cook?..The really need depth at the wing spots, not upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 7, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: Over at Sekou's blog at AJC someone was saying they heard the radio interview and the Bobcats were also potentially involved in a 3-way and Mihm and Cook might be going to them in that scenario, with Hawks getting their draft pick. I hope the Hawks don't help a division rival like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 an unprotected 2007 bobcat 1st rounder would be absolutely awesome to me. I mean that's a pick that's as likely as any to become greg oden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 7, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: an unprotected 2007 bobcat 1st rounder would be absolutely awesome to me. I mean that's a pick that's as likely as any to become greg oden You're kidding, right? Or do you think Chris Mihm is worth a top5 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 If Bynum wasn't included it probably had nothing to do with lack of interest from us. BK would love to acquire Bynum, a cheap young big (as a trading chip or a player to develop). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Quote: to say that he is not as good as you think he is, is absured! I agree with this completely! To say that a player is not as good as you think is a paradox! Another subtle inconsistency picked out by the razor-sharp BBP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 I wasn't kdding, maybe I'm missing something here. I thought the rumored 3 way was something like: LA gets Al Harrington Charlotte gets Mihm / Cook (something like that) ATL gets Charlotte 2007 1st rounder In which case I was saying I would love to get charlotte's first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 7, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Charlotte might give us their 2nd rounder, but there's a 0% chance they give up a lottery pick for Chris Mihm. Zero. Atlanta would be getting the Lakers' 1st rounder and cash. They might also get a young player like Vujacic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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