Premium Member Diesel Posted July 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I dont think G.S. were too happy with Ellis. From what I read, GS is having a fire sale to make the team attractive to a new owner. Why they want Marvin is a mystery? But let Sund work his magic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastDon Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I read it differently. I think it's plan A for when Joe signs. We can sign Joe and sign Childress and at the same time, clear up Cap Space in the future by trading away Marvin's long contract. I'm liking Marvin for Wright and Azubike. Then resigning Chillz. Or Marvin for Gadzuric but that deal can't be done anytime soon. Childress in no way helps us against the most elite small forward the game ever seen in Lebron James. Trading for those guys would be a horrible mistake. Why duplicate position if skinny Brandon Wright come here he is going to sit the bench behind Smooth and horford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Childress in no way helps us against the most elite small forward the game ever seen in Lebron James. Trading for those guys would be a horrible mistake. Why duplicate position if skinny Brandon Wright come here he is going to sit the bench behind Smooth and horford. You are right but Childress is much better as a 4th or 5th option than Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Childress in no way helps us against the most elite small forward the game ever seen in Lebron James. Trading for those guys would be a horrible mistake. Why duplicate position if skinny Brandon Wright come here he is going to sit the bench behind Smooth and horford. If we wanted a defensive stopper we would have brought in Bowen (from retirement)... but this is no longer Woody's team. Drew hasn't mentioned defense. I don't know how defense will look... but I know this.. In a motion offense, Childress will do well. Much better than duck butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBob Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) The Atlanta Hawks are shopping Marvin Williams and Mike Bibby in an attempt to free up cap space, according to league sources. So ASG breaks the bank for Joe ... but wants to trade 2 starters for cap space in this inflated market? Look, I know the knocks on both as well as any of us, but still ... Help me out. How exactly does this sound good? Edited July 2, 2010 by ATLBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBob Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 So ASG breaks the bank for Joe ... but wants to trade 2 starters for cap space in this inflated market? Look, I know the knocks on both as well as any of us, but still ... Help me out. How exactly does this sound good? Don't get me wrong, Biedrins sounds attractive, but how would that = cap space? And why would GS trade a youngish C on a reasonable contract for another SF/PF body type? And then what do we do at PG? I'll wait and see, but this just feels off ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 2, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) So ASG breaks the bank for Joe ... but wants to trade 2 starters for cap space in this inflated market? Look, I know the knocks on both as well as any of us, but still ... Help me out. How exactly does this sound good? The assumption has to be that Bibby is no longer a starter and is viewed as a big enough liability that we would like to give him away. Marvin is shipped out for space to sign his successor starter at SF. You take that money (the Marvin money) and give it to Chillz on a better contract, for example. Edited July 2, 2010 by AHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBob Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 The assumption has to be that Bibby is no longer a starter and is viewed as a big enough liability that we would like to give him away. Marvin is shipped out for space to sign his successor starter at SF. You take that money (the Marvin money) and give it to Chillz on a better contract, for example. Does Duhon/Chillz really sound like an upgrade over Bibby/Marvin though? Now, if the cap space part of the idea is less accurate then maybe an expiring contract could be flipped into a starting caliber point, but I'm not sure I'm buying that either. Teague/Duhon, or *gasp* Teague/Ivey, or even Teague/Watson doesn't make me feel terribly warm & fuzzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Does Duhon/Chillz really sound like an upgrade over Bibby/Marvin though? Now, if the cap space part of the idea is less accurate then maybe an expiring contract could be flipped into a starting caliber point, but I'm not sure I'm buying that either. Teague/Duhon, or *gasp* Teague/Ivey, or even Teague/Watson doesn't make me feel terribly warm & fuzzy. Getting ahead of yourself, Bob. Some Warriors fans suspect that Ellis is part of this... just for instance... let's wait to see what players are actually part of the deal, assuming it even takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaze Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I know Teague didnt get enough minutes to prove or disprove he can be a starter but one thing he showed that makes me ? his abilty to start is he could not hit a jump shot to save his life. He really looked bad. uuuhhhmm rondo couldnt and cant either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBob Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Some Warriors fans suspect that Ellis is part of this Oh yeah, if we're talking players & not cap space then things start getting interesting. Cautiously more optimistic than I have been, mostly per MC's "luxury tax/right player(s)" revelation, which I'm trying to take with a grain of salt and not a surge of jubilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 uuuhhhmm rondo couldnt and cant either +1 Chaze. Good point...........Teague is alot like a minny Rondo, and Rondo did not get enough time in his rookie year either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Rondo was never a well-regarded shooter in college. Teague was. He's capable. I think he just hit a bout of stage fright last year, I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank966 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Just get rid of Marv. He has failed during his time in ATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBob Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I think he just hit a bout of stage fright last year, I really do. Think it was moreso a bout of Woody fright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 So ASG breaks the bank for Joe ... but wants to trade 2 starters for cap space in this inflated market? Look, I know the knocks on both as well as any of us, but still ... Help me out. How exactly does this sound good? to open up $$ and a starting sf position for a trade for melo? melo may be made available soon. trade marvin/bibby for a pf or c to play the front court with horford, trade smoove/crawford or evans? for melo. sign duhon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKSFAN89 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 holy mother f*** if this is true i hope to god he goes. i dont care who we f***ing get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtmcgirt Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 If Marvin gets traded, I will volunteer to drive him to Hartsfield. I'll even help out ASG by chipping in for the ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 With the rumors of Denver wanting Biedrins and us shopping Marvin to GS....does anybody think we're trying to get Biedrins to then flip him and Smoove to Denver for some sort of Melo package? I do, however, realize that Denver is probably trying to get Biedrins to help make Melo stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaze Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 +1 Chaze. Good point...........Teague is alot like a minny Rondo, and Rondo did not get enough time in his rookie year either. i agreee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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