2012 Hawksquawk Summer Dynasty Draft

[Devon]

I'm in the process of doing a team-by-team analysis as I'm typing this...I love my squad for it's overall ability and like my 2-deep as well...I'm interested to hear what you guys think of my squad and of everyone elses... We really should find a way to play this on NBA2k13

[Buzzard]

I think mine will be right middle of the pack. Without a dominate center and Zeller not being a great backup, I believe I am susceptible to one-and-dones and whenever Bynum or Dwight comes to town, they'll get 30 on me. Just gotta hope Melo and Deron are on their games. I believe I have a top teir guard assembly in our league though. Good mixture of offense and defense. Slashers and shooters.

True centers are hard to come by and after looking over everyone's lineup I really do not see any clear cut favorites. The thing I like the most about my squad is in the total points, rebounds, and assist category I have three players ( Lee 11th, Cousins 19th, and Wall 23rd) in the top 25. In a 16 team league that is a solid trifecta. And two of them, Cousins and Wall, are just getting warmed up. I don't see how anyone can claim the best team. To many great players divided pretty evenly. Edited July 20, 2012 by Buzzard

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Just a suggestion.Once these guys get traded and contracts finalized, I'd be interested to see what some of your payrolls for this year looks like. It'll be interesting which one of you guys are truly set up for the future, and could retain your star players for the long term.

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

Just a suggestion. Once these guys get traded and contracts finalized, I'd be interested to see what some of your payrolls for this year looks like. It'll be interesting which one of you guys are truly set up for the future, and could retain your star players for the long term.

Gasp, an outsider with an idea! lol, and not a bad one at that... I suggested earlier that we should draft ownership groups that'll support our teams. I'm sure there are only maybe one or two teams that are under the luxury tax, let alone salary cap! lol

[Buzzard]

Gasp, an outsider with an idea! lol, and not a bad one at that... I suggested earlier that we should draft ownership groups that'll support our teams. I'm sure there are only maybe one or two teams that are under the luxury tax, let alone salary cap! lol

I am pretty sure my team is setup pretty well. Two of my stars, Wall and Cousins, are on rookie contracts and Klay a possible star is on his rookie one. Lee is costing some dollars but not a max like Dirk, Kobe, Bron etc... Rookie deals are the best because they cannot walk and the max is not as high as the 3rd contract. That 3rd one is what crushes your cap, plus the fact they are UFA's. Edited July 21, 2012 by Buzzard

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

I am pretty sure my team is setup pretty well. Two of my stars, Wall and Cousins, are on rookie contracts and Klay a possible star is on his rookie one. Lee is costing some dollars but not a max like Dirk, Kobe, Bron etc... Rookie deals are the best because they cannot walk and the max is not as high as the 3rd contract. That 3rd one is what crushes your cap, plus the fact they are UFA's.

lol, I have right at about $60 mil locked up in just my starting five... I'd say right now I am hovering just north of $80 mil.

[AHF]

You couldn't have a team like mine in today's salary cap era. My starting lineup alone seems improbable if not impossible:Tony Parker - $12.5MKevin Martin - $12.4MAndre Iguodala - $14.7MKevin Garnett - $11.3MDwight Howard - $19.5M$70.5M just for my starters. You couldn't build around prime veteran studs in the real NBA like you can in this draft. Salary cap was expressly excluded from consideration in team building so it would be a completely different exercise if you had to be worried about how you were going to keep James Harden, etc. (as OKC is since it seems to be shopping him for Beal, Howard, etc.). In this draft, you just grab the player and fit them into your basketball team. Much simpler concept than actual team management.

[Devon]

Starting 5

Kyle Lowry - $5.75m / $6.25m / UFA

Tyreke Evans - $5.25m / $6.93m / RFA

Kevin Durant - $17.5m / $18.7m / $19.97m / $21.2m / UFA

Chris Bosh - $17.5m / $19m / $20.6m / $22.1m / UFA

Serge Ibaka - $2.25m / $3.3m (QO) / RFA

My starting 5 next year is only around $48.5 million... Not too bad

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Gasp, an outsider with an idea! lol, and not a bad one at that... I suggested earlier that we should draft ownership groups that'll support our teams. I'm sure there are only maybe one or two teams that are under the luxury tax, let alone salary cap! lol

LOL @ "an outsider". Check the # of posts and my Hawksquawk seniority date. I'm not an outsider. I've just been neglecting the Squawk for about a year or two. I actually participated in this last summer when someone disappeared and stopped picking players. I scanned through some of the teams and was like "some of these guys have 90 million dollar payrolls."

[Admin]

LOL @ "an outsider". Check the # of posts and my Hawksquawk seniority date. I'm not an outsider. I've just been neglecting the Squawk for about a year or two. I actually participated in this last summer when someone disappeared and stopped picking players. I scanned through some of the teams and was like "some of these guys have 90 million dollar payrolls."

Pretty sure he meant outsider in that you weren't one of the GMs in this league.

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

LOL @ "an outsider". Check the # of posts and my Hawksquawk seniority date. I'm not an outsider. I've just been neglecting the Squawk for about a year or two. I actually participated in this last summer when someone disappeared and stopped picking players.

I scanned through some of the teams and was like "some of these guys have 90 million dollar payrolls."

I was just making a joke at that you weren't one of the members that was apart of this years draft and is the first member that wasn't apart of the draft to chime in... Don't take it personally and get butt-hurt... Just a joke... Sheessshhh...

[HawkItus]

It is not really fair to look at contracts when we specifically ignored them for the exercise. What's the purpose if it wasn't a concern in choosing players?

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

It is not really fair to look at contracts when we specifically ignored them for the exercise. What's the purpose if it wasn't a concern in choosing players?

Some truth here. In all truthfulness, I looked at this draft as if the NBA just folded and we had 400+ players desperate for a job in our new league. It wasn't about contracts or starting gigs, it was just about getting on a team...

[AHF]

Some truth here. In all truthfulness, I looked at this draft as if the NBA just folded and we had 400+ players desperate for a job in our new league. It wasn't about contracts or starting gigs, it was just about getting on a team...

That was the intent - to form the ideal roster based on skills, age, health, etc., not to manage salaries or see who would put themselves in good position for future lottery picks or anything.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

I was just making a joke at that you weren't one of the members that was apart of this years draft and is the first member that wasn't apart of the draft to chime in... Don't take it personally and get butt-hurt... Just a joke... Sheessshhh...

Nothing personal taken. Just telling you that I wasn't an "outsider" . . or at least an outsider to what this process is about.

@ AHF . . . even you have to admit that if you did have salary constraints in this process, that this would be a little more of a challenge to construct the type of team that you want. It would create more realistic teams as well.

Let's say you had a "Soft" Salary Cap, triggered @ 60 million . . . meaning that once a player obtains someone that puts them over the 60 million mark, the following occurs:

a) a player can only choose one MLE player ( making between 5 - 6 million ), then

b) a player can only choose one player making the Bi-Level ( making between 2 - 3 million ), then

c) only rookie minimum and vet minimum guys can be added.

Take your team for example

1st pick: Dwight Howard: 19.26 mill

2nd pick: Tony Parker: 12.5 mill

3rd pick: Andre Iguodala: 14.72 mill

STOP

You're now at 46.48 million amongst 3 players. You are less than 14 million away from triggering the Soft Salary Cap.

Do you STILL add KG at 11.33 mill a year as your 4th pick, bringing your payroll to 57.81 mill?

Do you go young, and take Bradley Beal and Enas Kanter as your next 2 picks, before "spulrging" on a higher priced vet free agent to put you over the cap?

If you're in "win now" mode, maybe you still add KG. But at that point, you'd have one more pick before the cap is triggered. You'd have to decide between Kevin Martin ( your 6th pick ) and Carlos Boozer ( your 7th pick ). Can't have them both.

Then you'd have to add an MLE guy . . then a Bi-Level type guy, before shopping at the Dollar Store to round out the roster.

Just a little more challenging to do it with a salary constraint, instead of simply picking whatever players are available.

Like I said . . . it was just a suggestion.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

In that scenario, the strategy I'd probably use is to choose two top level, high cost players. Then try to find young but talented players before I hit the salary cap. Probably guys who are still in their rookie contracts, but are playing at a high level.Once I got to the point in which my next selection would put me over the salary cap, I'd probably add a high cost vet player that someone overlooked. Then I'd try to find value at the MLE and Bi-Level. Probably add specialist type players with the minimum contracts.( shrugs )

[Admin]

North that's a great idea but several people had trouble keeping track of who was already drafted so adding other considerations might be a bit much.

[LucastheThird]

Put the Ball in the Damn Basket

Derrick Rose- 16.3,

OJ Mayo- 4.5, 4.9 (Guessing)

Paul George-2.5, 3.2, 4.5

Al Horford-12.0, 12.0, 12.0, 12.0

Joakim Noah-11.1, 12.1, 13.2, 14.2

Devin Harris-8.5

Landry Fields- (3 years 20 million)

Gordon Hayward2.7, 4.4, 4.7

Perry Jones 3-1.4, 1.8

Udonis Haslem- 4.1, 4.3

JJ Reddick- 6.0

Kendal Marshall- 1.9???

Nikola Vucevic- 1.7, 1.8, 2.9, 4.0

72.7 year 1.

Wasn't drafting to stay within a luxury tax because we didn't have one set. However if going by current NBA rules; I should be under the tax after year one with some room to sign two players. Maybe we'll do it next time, who knows.

[Admin]

Put the Ball in the Damn Basket

Derrick Rose- 16.3,

OJ Mayo- 4.5, 4.9 (Guessing)

Paul George-2.5, 3.2, 4.5

Al Horford-12.0, 12.0, 12.0, 12.0

Joakim Noah-11.1, 12.1, 13.2, 14.2

Devin Harris-8.5

Landry Fields- (3 years 20 million)

Gordon Hayward2.7, 4.4, 4.7

Perry Jones 3-1.4, 1.8

Udonis Haslem- 4.1, 4.3

JJ Reddick- 6.0

Kendal Marshall- 1.9???

Nikola Vucevic- 1.7, 1.8, 2.9, 4.0

72.7 year 1.

Wasn't drafting to stay within a luxury tax because we didn't have one set. However if going by current NBA rules; I should be under the tax after year one with some room to sign two players. Maybe we'll do it next time, who knows.

I would expect we'd have a much higher cap and lux tax limits since we are only half as many yes as the real league so we are going to have more good-great players on each team. 70 million probably isn't too bad.

[lethalweapon3]

LETHAL ENFORCERS

Total Salaries:

(2012-13 / 2013-14 / 2014-15 / 2015-16 / 2016-17)

$80,734,843 / $78,698,732 / $80,466,284 / $32,477,400 / $19,083,328

Individual Players -

(Team Option) (Qualifying Offer/RFA) (Early Termination Option)

STARTERS:

Rubio - $3,480,120 / $3,741,120 / $4,002,120 / $5,070,686 / $6,723,730

Rush - $4,385,416 /

Batum - $10,825,000 / $11,295,250 / $11,765,500 / $12,235,750 /

Stoudemire - $19,948,799 / $21,679,893 / $23,410,988 /

M. Gasol - $13,891,359 / $14,860,523 / $15,829,688 /

RESERVES:

J. Teague - $2,433,077 / $3,469,568 /

C.Lee - $5,000,000 / $5,250,000 / $5,500,000 / $5,750,000 /

Dunleavy - $3,750,000 /

T. Robinson - $3,374,640 / $3,526,440 / $3,678,360 / $4,660,482 / $6,179,799

Valanciunas - $3,374,640 / $3,526,440 / $3,678,360 / $4,660,482 / $6,179,799

Ridnour - $3,680,000 / $4,000,000 / $4,320,000 /

Mbah a Moute - $4,794,192 / $4,588,384 / $4,382,575 /

Seraphin - $1,797,600/$2,761,114/$3,898,693 /

Brandon Rush's eventual RFA offer would be matched for 2011-12, bringing the salary for year 1 somewhere north of $82 million.

Obviously, the bank-buster in the bunch is Amar'e, taking up almost 25% of the team salary. This team is intended to compete for the title in later years, so unless Amar'e brings this team into instant title contention (hint: he won't) or gets traded by next year's deadline, he'll be the likely candidate to get amnesthetized in 2013. Stoudemire won't be seeing his early termination option in 2014. Robinson and Seraphin will have to be ready to move up in the rotation, and Batum will have to prove capable of becoming the alpha-dog scorer, by the start of the following season.

Otherwise, the remaining salaries are reasonable and under team-control. On this team, Jeff Teague will not get an extension this season, and will have to go the restricted free agency route next summer. Mbah a Moute's declining contract helps soften the blow over the next few seasons. Picking up Seraphin's team option in 2013, amnestying Stoudemire, and adding some free agents will bring the 2013-14 salaries down to $68-70 million.

Rubio, Robinson, and Valanciunas are all likely to have their team options picked up in 2014 and 2015, and Rubio will likely secure a contract extension in 2016, as will the other up-and-coming players if they fulfill their promise.

~lw3