2013 Hawksquawk Summer Dynasty Draft Sign-Up Thread

[AHF]

This thread is intended for people to sign up to participate in the draft and to discuss potential rule changes (like whether we want to include salaries which I don't favor due to it going to a different place and due to issues like unsigned free agents, complexity of cap rules, etc.).

*****Please post in BOLD if you want to participate in the draft and discuss in non-bold text any rules issues.*****

This will make it easier to pull together the interested participants. Please don't sign up if you aren't going to participate as you don't want the rest of the site hating you for holding up and/or ruining what is a fun but time consuming experience.

Here are last year's rules:

1. Draft Format: This is a fourteen round snake draft, so Draft order goes 1,2,3,4,...14, 15, 16, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11,...3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3,..
2. Eligibility: You can Draft anybody that is currently in the league or is or has been draft eligible. We have eliminated the requirement that they must have played at least one NBA game prior to today, so players like Ricky Rubio and Kyrie Irving would have been eligible under this format in last year’s draft. Players eligible for the 2012 draft can be drafted as can foreign players drafted in the past or draft eligible in the past who haven't played in the NBA. Players like Shabazz Muhammed are still not eligible for this draft because they are not and have never been draft eligible. [NOTE: This is last year's rule so Muhammed is now draft eligible while Wiggins is not. Anyone eligible for the 2013 or a prior draft is available to be picked.]
3. Making Your Picks/Discussion and Debate: When it's your turn to draft, you just post (in bold) the player's name and you should do a writeup on why you chose that player. If you don't have time for a writeup, you can just make your selection to keep Draft moving and then post writeup later when you have time. Your writeup should explain why the player rules and how well they fit with your squad and why your team is now going to dominate the '10s. You should always pm the next person in the list after you pick.
Example:
AHF Team Pick: Shaquille O’Neal
I am taking Shaq to bolster my rebounding and interior defense. While he is getting older, he will be playing limited minutes on my roster behind Dwight Howard and will still be able to dominate smaller guys playing center like Al Horford in the paint. Health is a concern but in round 11 there isn’t a lot of depth on the interior so this pick makes all the sense in the world.

Discussion of picks is encouraged but do not discuss undrafted players to avoid influencing future picks. So, for example, if Wilt is picked #1 then it is a breach of draft etiquette to start discussion other available centers or how MJ is still available, etc. If you are explaining why you picked Wilt, you need to just generally address other available players or use the word "Player" as a substitute for someone specific. Example: I took Wilt because he was so dominant, and, while Wilt would be dominant in any era, I don't think that Player would hold up as well when guarded by other elite picks. (Not that MJ or Wilt would hold up very well in 2012).
4. Time Frame/Finances: You get the player as they are and their projected potential/output for their projected career from here on out. So if you Draft Tracy McGrady, you are getting a player often injured, on the downside of his career, with only a year or so left. If you Draft John Wall, you get a young player who may project to play for 10+ years at a high level. Assume for purposes of this draft that all players get paid 1/13^th of your salary cap every year so that you don’t need to bypass Joe Johnson for Jodie Meeks just because Joe is expensive and you already have several high salaries.
5. Roster: Each team gets 13 players and 1 coach, no restrictions on positions...draft 13 centers if you want; only 1 coach
6. Evaluation Criteria: Draft as if you are starting a new franchise, so consider how your team will play into the future, not just year one. That said, you can choose to weight immediate success or long-term success as you wish.
7. Trades: Teams are free to trade players, coaches or picks but the total number of incoming and outgoing roster spots must be the same. I.e., you can trade your first round pick and fifth round pick for someone’s second and third round picks but can’t trade your first round pick for a second round pick and a tenth round pick. Trades are subject to review but will only be overturned where both a number of posters and the commish (AHF) feel the trade is so unfair that it could ruin balance. Basically, we want to avoid stacking one team up with lopsided trades but trades for fit or due to different projections of talent are fine.
8. Time Limits: We'll start off with an 8 hour time limit for each pick (see note on nighttime shutdown). So when the person before you picks, you have 8 hours from then to make your selection or you are skipped. If you are skipped, the next person's clock starts and they have 8 hours. You may make up skipped picks at any time. Just post who you want when you get back to the thread. We may decrease time limit if the draft drags to a crawl and people aren’t expected to take that long if they are available. Draft moving smoothly, but we'll decide that as a group.
One Caveat: The clock does not run from 10pm-7am EST. So if team 5 makes a selection at 9pm then team 6 has until 2pm the next day (1 hour until 10pm then 7 hours after 7am.)
9. PM The Next Pick: You should PM the person after you when you make your pick so they know it's their turn. However, everyone should also follow along with the thread and know when they are up soon. Please make sure you have set your preferences to receive emails when you are PM’d.
10. Anticipated Absences – Advance Picks: If your pick is coming up soon and you'll be away, just ask in thread who will take your pm and be around to post it when it's your turn. I like to pm someone picking after me, and ideally someone that I have 2 picks before they go again so I can pm them 2 choices in case my top choice gets selected.

Edited June 19, 2013 by AHF

[Alex]

Sign me up.

[lethalweapon3]

Okie dokie!

~lw3

[Colin]

I'm down.

[Guest]

In.

[ATLHawks3]

I want in.

[LucastheThird]

I'm in

[LucastheThird]

How are we going to evaluate rosters at the end this year? Last year we had a lot of Squawkers who all thought they had a chance to win the imagined title (myself included).

[Buzzard]

I am in!

[Chinky_eyed_hawk]

I missed it the last 2 years so COUNT ME IN.

Let's hope my team doesn't turn into team ICU like last time.

Edited June 18, 2013 by Chinky_eyed_hawk

[Chinky_eyed_hawk]

I missed it the last 2 years so COUNT ME IN.

Let's hope my team doesn't turn into team ICU like last time.

COUNT ME IN

[Buzzard]

I agree about the cap rules. Way to much math for a little fun.

[Buzzard]

I missed it the last 2 years so COUNT ME IN.

Let's hope my team doesn't turn into team ICU like last time.

You talking to me? Wall = franchise type top young PG, Thompson breakout season SG, Cousins = franchise like top young center, Favors look for him to break out this season. And whether its Lee or Favors starting at PF, my bench is loaded, Billups, Calderon, Dudley, Sulinger but I admit, I thought Beasley would get his act together in Phoenix and blow up.

The draft is tougher than you think. By the 5th round you will have a slot to fill and the pickings will be slim. Mine was SF, other than that I thought I had a solid draft.

Edited June 18, 2013 by Buzzard

[Admin]

I'm in like Flint!

[Admin]

I think having a salary cap would be pretty fun actually.

[Buzzard]

I think having a salary cap would be pretty fun actually.

It would be fun but very hard. The free agents is the problem. Some will get more that what they had against the books last season and others will get less. Very hard to slot them except for the obvious two, Howard and CP3.

[Admin]

How are we going to evaluate rosters at the end this year? Last year we had a lot of Squawkers who all thought they had a chance to win the imagined title (myself included).

I vote that we use WARP to decide.

[Admin]

It would be fun but very hard. The free agents is the problem. Some will get more that what they had against the books last season and others will get less. Very hard to slot them except for the obvious two, Howard and CP3.

We should be able to create a simple way of doing it. Say that free agents get paid what they made last year, except in the case of the young guys who are getting new contracts (e.g. Teague) and in those cases we give them their qualifying offer.

[Buzzard]

We should be able to create a simple way of doing it. Say that free agents get paid what they made last year, except in the case of the young guys who are getting new contracts (e.g. Teague) and in those cases we give them their qualifying offer.

I think that would suck for teams picking Iggy, Jefferson, Martin, Manu, Smith type players. In a cap system instead of them being valuable they will crush you.

[Guest]

I barely have enough free time to make picks, adding salary cap issues will make it worse.