I don't know about yall but Im back on the Tank Train *Shrugs*

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Chris Kaman (can put up Al Jefferson numbers) is available.

The same Chris Kaman sleeping on benches?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfk9w4G2rdE

Jefferson just had his 5th 30 point game in 7 games.

Kaman has NEVER had a 30 point game in his career.

He got close the other night though.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Millsap is the all star. Jefferson isn't ...we got the right guy.

Wrong.

Millsap is the all star . . only because of the injury to Horford. But he deserves his spot.

Jefferson is the snub . . . who is averaging 20 points and almost 11 rebounds . . . and averaging 23 points and over 11 rebounds since Horford got hurt.

I like Millsap . . but he's nowhere near as consistent of an offensive scorer as Jefferson is. And Jefferson is the better rebounder.

Heck, we had enough cap room to add Jefferson AND Millsap, if need be. Just start Millsap at the 3, but play him mainly with the reserves at the 4.

Then if one of them got hurt, we'd still have 2 quality frontcourt players.

Edited February 12, 2014 by TheNorthCydeRises

[Guest]

Wrong. Millsap is the all star . . only because of the injury to Horford. But he deserves his spot. Jefferson is the snub . . . who is averaging 20 points and almost 11 rebounds . . . and averaging 23 points and over 11 rebounds since Horford got hurt. I like Millsap . . but he's nowhere near as consistent of an offensive scorer as Jefferson is. And Jefferson is the better rebounder. Heck, we had enough cap room to add Jefferson AND Millsap, if need be. Just start Millsap at the 3, but play him mainly with the reserves at the 4. Then if one of them got hurt, we'd still have 2 quality frontcourt players.

Jefferson was far too expensive for what he does on the court. He's inconsistent and very injury prone. Sure he has good stretches of games, but I'm not paying a hefty contract to somebody who brings it every now and again. I'll bet Jefferson either cools off significantly after the all star break or he gets hurt. I've seen this movie before. No thanks.

[Guest]

Chris Kaman (can put up Al Jefferson numbers) is available.

He fits under the DPE and would save the Lakers a ton of money in tax payments. It makes so much sense, but I have some strange feeling that Danny won't do it simply because it makes too much sense. Plus it would cost us money.

[Guest]

He fits under the DPE and would save the Lakers a ton of money in tax payments. It makes so much sense, but I have some strange feeling that Danny won't do it simply because it makes too much sense. Plus it would cost us money.

Plus Ferry likes pros pros like Sap and Korver not to pay someone for taking cat naps on the bench. Kaman another no heart mofo.

[BrazilianHawk]

Can't be worse than what Ayón is giving us nowadays. OTOH, Pero will be back in another 1 or two weeks.

[Bonkers]

Yea sooooo ummm what did I say earlier. The Nets are most likely gonna pass us next

What's the point of being in the playoffs this year again just to get embarrassed???

Edited February 13, 2014 by Bonkers

[Sothron]

We keep playing like this we'll come by the tank the natural way

[Plainview1981]

It's about establishing that 'winning' culture? That 'winning til you get to the 1st round' culture.I kid, I kid.

Funny thing... That's the what the team has been doing for YEARS... Ferry basically wants to do the same thing but he thinks he can actually get top notch FA's to sign here. lol

It's all about SPIN.... Ge acts like the team was a 20 win team before he got here, but even after this team has made the playoffs all of these years the FA's still have not been very interested.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Hotlanta1981

[Jody23]

Seems like the Pistons and Knicks want to keep us in the playoffs.

[Bonkers]

We keep playing like this we'll come by the tank the natural way

That's what I actually created this thread for lol

[AHF]

Hawks' Owners: "Alright, Dan it is time to tank."

Ferry:

[macdaddy]

I'm not a tank fan but we are only 3.5 games ahead of Detroit in the 9th spot. Detroit or New York might be willing to make the playoffs this year.

We will know more at the deadline.

[MaceCase]

Hawks' Owners: "Alright, Dan it is time to tank."

Ferry:

Awful, awful man. Why is he taking pictures instead of helping the kid catch his bus!

[AHF]

Awful, awful man. Why is he taking pictures instead of helping the kid catch his bus!

It is awful. Here is the picture his son drew after Dad wouldn't help him.

Apparently, when a Ferry misses the bus, Danny just stays the course.

[ag82]

I'm in. Let's tank this thing up and get some luck in the lottery!

[tbhawksfan]

Should have been in heavy tank mode at the beginning of the deadline. After Horf went down we just didn't have enough talent left to do anything. It's not too late, move the now assets for picks or young guys and expiring filler and slide down into the top ten in the draft plus picks we pick up in the deals

[AHF]

There are 31 games left. If we shift into tank mode and go 13-18 (42%) the rest of the way, how many lottery teams will we pass in the race to the bottom if they go .500 or so the rest of the way? The % chances are my own guest-imates so they are not statistically worthwhile but I feel that these teams going 500 the rest of the way is very unlikely and the chances of the Hawks winning more than 42% is much better than 50/50 given the weak East.

Atlanta 25-26 + 13-18 = 38-44

Memphis Grizzlies - 29-23 // >90% (trying to win)

T-Wolves 25-28 + 14-15 = 39-43 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water)

Denver 24-27 + 15-16 = 39-43 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water)

New Orleans 23-29 + 15-15 = 33-44 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water)

Pistons 22-30 + 15-15 = 37-45 // <40% (motivated in short term but could pack it in)

Knicks 20-32 + 15-15 = 35-47 // <40% (motivated to win)

Cavs 20-33 + 15-14 = 35-47 // <40% (motivated in short term but could pack it in)

Jazz 19-33 + 15-15 = 34-48 // <20% (tanking)

Celtics 19-35 + 14-14 = 33-49 // <20% (tanking)

Lakers 18-35 + 14-15 = 32-50 // NO (won't overtly tank)

Sacto (tanking)

Orlando (tanking)

Philly (tanking)

Milwaukee (tanking)

I give us the 12th pick in a near best case scenario. It is most likely we end up with the 13th or 14th pick. The reality is that many of these teams are going to utterly pack it in -- expect to see records at least as bad as to date from most of these teams.

Edited February 14, 2014 by AHF

[Jody23]

There are 31 games left. If we shift into tank mode and go 13-18 (42%) the rest of the way, how many lottery teams will we pass in the race to the bottom if they go .500 or so the rest of the way? The % chances are my own guest-imates so they are not statistically worthwhile but I feel that these teams going 500 the rest of the way is very unlikely and the chances of the Hawks winning more than 42% is much better than 50/50 given the weak East. Atlanta 25-26 + 13-18 = 38-44 Memphis Grizzlies - 29-23 // >90% (trying to win) T-Wolves 25-28 + 14-15 = 39-43 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water)Denver 24-27 + 15-16 = 39-43 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water)New Orleans 23-29 + 15-15 = 33-44 // 50/50 (soon will be dead in the water) Pistons 22-30 + 15-15 = 37-45 // <40% (motivated in short term but could pack it in)Knicks 20-32 + 15-15 = 35-47 // <40% (motivated to win)Cavs 20-33 + 15-14 = 35-47 // <40% (motivated in short term but could pack it in) Jazz 19-33 + 15-15 = 34-48 // <20% (tanking)Celtics 19-35 + 14-14 = 33-49 // <20% (tanking) Lakers 18-35 + 14-15 = 32-50 // NO (won't overtly tank)Sacto (tanking)Orlando (tanking)Philly (tanking)Milwaukee (tanking) I give us the 12th pick in a near best case scenario. It is most likely we end up with the 13th or 14th pick. The reality is that many of these teams are going to utterly pack it in -- expect to see records at least as bad as to date from most of these teams.

So, it looks like Ferry will be relying heavily on trades and free agency to try and improve the team which will be difficult especially on the trade front (we don't have alot that's attractive).

[Sothron]

It is interesting to be honest to see if A$G pushes Ferry to make playoff now but no real long term benefits like trading for Turner or Hawes or can DF pull off a big name trade or simply stand pat for the offseason. My money is on the last.