hazer Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 It is a result of great coaching. Which is a result of great GM'ing. Bud is Ferry's greatest acquisition, wouldn't be here otherwise, and is a testament to the genius of Ferry. In 2 years people, turned this thing around in 2 years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) So far that Joe trade is looking like a bust to a degree. All of the players we got from that trade are bad or weak. With that said, we got Kyle Korver with that capspace and that is the most impactful move thus far. His drafts have been bad with some solid 2nd rounds and clearly drafting Dennis was huge. Edited December 21, 2014 by nbasupes40retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I'll evaluate him after the postseason is over. Still not impressed... failed to put pieces around LeBron and hasn't pulled in any marquee players. Like others have said, more impressed with Bud. Best Atlanta HC in a long time. So far that Joe trade is looking like a bust to a degree. All of the players we got from that trade are bad or weak. With that said, we got Kyle Korver with that capspace and that is the most impactful move thus far. His drafts have been bad with some solid 2nd rounds and clearly drafting Dennis was huge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Ferry has done a good job of getting the kind of players bud wants. Carroll and Schröder though are all coach bud Edited December 21, 2014 by Afro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Winning without Teague Is coaching! But the two of them bring System and attitude where the total is greater than the sum of its parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If coach Bud had Lance Stevenson, Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings, would he be having the success he is having? Don't think too hard, the answer is no. Let's give Danny credit where credit is due. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeHawk Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 This is a hypothesis that haven't been proven true yet. All the championship teams have had marquee players. No system team has ever won a championship. There's still 3-4 minutes per game that requires somebody to stepup. Usually, that's your marquee player. It's easy to look at Marquee players in bad situations that just can't win. However, that isn't the same as if that Marquee player were in a good situation. Right now, we have a good situation but no real Marquee player. the system will create marquee players. Just as it does in San Antonio . Ever notice AFTER players leave San Antonio they just arent quite the same player?? Its the system which requires players to fill roles according to their strengths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeHawk Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) So far that Joe trade is looking like a bust to a degree. All of the players we got from that trade are bad or weak. With that said, we got Kyle Korver with that capspace and that is the most impactful move thus far. His drafts have been bad with some solid 2nd rounds and clearly drafting Dennis was huge. we moved a player with a huge contract that wouldnt fit our system and disappeared come playoff time. Just getting someone to take the contract was a win for us and our ability to rebuild - without Joe gone this rebuild takes twice as long. I had to add also a player that has to dominate the ball to get his numbers - this system requires ball movement to be successful so iso Joe had to go . Hows it working out for the Nets ?? Edited December 21, 2014 by OldTimeHawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 the system will create marquee players. Just as it does in San Antonio . Ever notice AFTER players leave San Antonio they just arent quite the same player?? Its the system which requires players to fill roles according to their strengths. Tim Duncan was created by the system?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarHampton Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If Danny Ferry comes back, at his first meeting with the staff and the new diversity officer i bet he greets everyone with "What`s up, my Nzingas?!?" No? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 This is a hypothesis that haven't been proven true yet. All the championship teams have had marquee players. No system team has ever won a championship. There's still 3-4 minutes per game that requires somebody to stepup. Usually, that's your marquee player. It's easy to look at Marquee players in bad situations that just can't win. However, that isn't the same as if that Marquee player were in a good situation. Right now, we have a good situation but no real Marquee player. It depends on what considers "marquee". We have two proven unselfish all-stars. A PG that is climbing that ladder. Stars like Westbrook and Melo are out to get theirs... Stars like Parker, Mano, and Duncan buy into the system and win trophies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If coach Bud had Lance Stevenson, Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings, would he be having the success he is having? Don't think too hard, the answer is no. Let's give Danny credit where credit is due. Right on Hootie! I just read an article on BR today talking about how Smoove could be a stud in the right system with the right gets around him. Thank God that Ferry got rid of him and JJ as this system would not work with those two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Right on Hootie! I just read an article on BR today talking about how Smoove could be a stud in the right system with the right gets around him. Thank God that Ferry got rid of him and JJ as this system would not work with those two. To me, if you put Smoove in Sac-town as a 6th man backing up Thompson and Cousins. That would be a good look for Smoove. I also felt like Smoove needed to be next to a talented center and a good true PG to succeed. Something like LAC would be great as well but the issue is salary more times than not for Smoove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Tim Duncan was created by the system?!? He has been preserved by it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 21, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 So far that Joe trade is looking like a bust to a degree. All of the players we got from that trade are bad or weak. With that said, we got Kyle Korver with that capspace and that is the most impactful move thus far. His drafts have been bad with some solid 2nd rounds and clearly drafting Dennis was huge. Had we just removed Marvin, we could have gotten Korver. Had we removed Marvin and Smoove, we could have gotten the main peices to our puzzle. The Joe trade was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Had we just removed Marvin, we could have gotten Korver. Had we removed Marvin and Smoove, we could have gotten the main peices to our puzzle. The Joe trade was a bust. I will see what draft pick is this year but it's been a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Had we just removed Marvin, we could have gotten Korver. Had we removed Marvin and Smoove, we could have gotten the main peices to our puzzle. The Joe trade was a bust. No, we couldn't have. Korver was part of the Joe trade, we traded Marvin for Harris (fairly equal salaries). If we had retained Joe AND signed Lou, we definitely wouldn't have had the cap to pick up Sap and company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Lol, the board has gone full Ferr-retart. I read a rumor that the "system" cured ebola over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 This is a hypothesis that haven't been proven true yet. All the championship teams have had marquee players. No system team has ever won a championship. There's still 3-4 minutes per game that requires somebody to stepup. Usually, that's your marquee player. It's easy to look at Marquee players in bad situations that just can't win. However, that isn't the same as if that Marquee player were in a good situation. Right now, we have a good situation but no real Marquee player. False! Pistons ring a bell? Who was their marquee star? Ben Wallace? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IheartVolt Posted December 22, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Had we just removed Marvin, we could have gotten Korver. Had we removed Marvin and Smoove, we could have gotten the main peices to our puzzle. The Joe trade was a bust. Lol that is good comedy right there. The Joe trade was Ferry magic getting the Nets to take that bloated contract. Ask the Nets if it was a bust for the Hawks. Lmao On a side note Joe would be great right now on a major discount off his bloated salary 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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