Most Hated Hawk - Voting Time

[capstone21]

With these options especially Geron / Belkin ... It is silly that Al is getting votes ...

[AHF]

On 7/8/2016 at 6:43 PM, bird_dirt said:

I have to say my #1 would have to be Christian Leattner, but it isn't exactly Hawks related. Glad I wasn't an ATL fan then. 

It was hard to stomach.  The only good thing was at least he had his career best season with us.  Can't imagine how much more I would hate him if I were a T-Wolves fan.

 

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I'm going to let this poll run for a week before we close voting.

[AHF]

The final results are in:

 

	First Place	Second Place	Third Place	Fourth Place	Fifth Place	Total Points
Michael Gearon Jr	15	11	6	4	5	269
Pete Babcock	8	7	8	6	5	192
Steve Belkin	8	9	6	5	4	188
Al Horford	5	4	5	1	2	106
Billy Knight	1	4	6	8	4	92
Danny Manning	2	0	6	6	4	68
Isiah Rider	1	2	2	6	3	52
Larry Drew	2	2	1	1	3	42
Josh Smith	0	3	0	2	10	27
Speedy Claxton	0	0	2	3	2	19
Points for Vote	10	7	5	3	1

[AHF]

Your #3

Your #2

[AHF]

Your #1

[Guest]

I think I would say 1,3,2 but sounds about right. I mean I hated Babs for the Nique trade mostly but the other 2 were just in it for themselves.

[Guest]

[Buzzard]

Hate is s strong word, so when making my picks I thought of "most inept". Hell of a list, no wonder we have been compared to the Clippers and Kings in the past!

Edited August 5, 2016 by Buzzard

[Watchman]

On 7/8/2016 at 4:52 PM, Dolfan23 said:

Belkin hands down for me. He did everything he could to ruin this franchise.

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Actually, Belkin was right about Joe.  He wasn't worth as much as the other members thought.   He also ultimately ended up being the initial spark that ended up with complete new ownership, although it took a long time.

[macdaddy]

Man. I missed this thread.  Sad to see Horford on there.   I've got nothing but respect for the guy.   And Larry Drew?   He did what he could.

[AHF]

2 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

I think I would say 1,3,2 but sounds about right. I mean I hated Babs for the Nique trade mostly but the other 2 were just in it for themselves.

Totally agree with you.  Interestingly, you voted Babs #1 and so you could say  you are the sole reason that he finished higher than Belkin since if you hadn't vote him #1, he would not have finished above either Belkin or MGJr.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Man. I missed this thread.  Sad to see Horford on there.   I've got nothing but respect for the guy.   And Larry Drew?   He did what he could.

Edited August 5, 2016 by kg01

[Sothron]

I voted for Gearon for A$G reasons. They stabbed me in the back by selling off the Thrashers and basically making Atlanta untouchable for the NHL for God only knows for how many years.

No one should be voting for Babcock. He was the best GM we ever had. All that whining about Nique ignores the fact that if he had paid Nique all that money we never would have gotten Deke.

[Sothron]

On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 3:23 PM, AHF said:

It was hard to stomach.  The only good thing was at least he had his career best season with us.  Can't imagine how much more I would hate him if I were a T-Wolves fan.

 

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I'm going to let this poll run for a week before we close voting.

Why? He was an All Star in Atlanta and never should have left for Detroit. He was ok in Minn but that team had almost no talent on it. That wasn't his fault.

[AHF]

22 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Why? He was an All Star in Atlanta and never should have left for Detroit. He was ok in Minn but that team had almost no talent on it. That wasn't his fault.

You are talking to two Kentucky fans who watched him literally stomp on a player in a game and not get ejected for it like the rules required.  It shouldn't be hard to understand why rooting for someone you hated was hard!

25 minutes ago, Sothron said:

No one should be voting for Babcock. He was the best GM we ever had. All that whining about Nique ignores the fact that if he had paid Nique all that money we never would have gotten Deke.

Babcock was literally the worst drafting GM in NBA history.  I get what you are saying about Deke but we didn't have to pay Nique in order to try for a title with him when we were in first place, Jordan was retired, and we flipped him for Manning.  Letting him go for nothing after that run would have been the same as trading for Manning and then watching Manning walk.  If we did win a ring that season and he was forced to resign Nique to an overpriced deal, I would happily live with that over the good but not great years with Deke (who I really like).

1 hour ago, macdaddy said:

 And Larry Drew?   He did what he could.

Larry Drew got his votes for asking to get released early from his contract so he could join the Bucks then using his insider knowledge of the player the Hawks had targeted (the Greek Freak) to tell the Bucks to take him one pick before the Hawks.  Perhaps also taking what subpar brakes Woody had on Josh's 3pt shooting off (he went from 7 attempts the last season under Woody to 154 attempts the first season under Drew) but I think it is mostly the backstab move after we granted him the early release.

[macdaddy]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

You are talking to two Kentucky fans who watched him literally stomp on a player in a game and not get ejected for it like the rules required.  It shouldn't be hard to understand why rooting for someone you hated was hard!

Babcock was literally the worst drafting GM in NBA history.  I get what you are saying about Deke but we didn't have to pay Nique in order to try for a title with him when we were in first place, Jordan was retired, and we flipped him for Manning.  Letting him go for nothing after that run would have been the same as trading for Manning and then watching Manning walk.  If we did win a ring that season and he was forced to resign Nique to an overpriced deal, I would happily live with that over the good but not great years with Deke (who I really like).

Larry Drew got his votes for asking to get released early from his contract so he could join the Bucks then using his insider knowledge of the player the Hawks had targeted (the Greek Freak) to tell the Bucks to take him one pick before the Hawks.  Perhaps also taking what subpar brakes Woody had on Josh's 3pt shooting off (he went from 7 attempts the last season under Woody to 154 attempts the first season under Drew) but I think it is mostly the backstab move after we granted him the early release.

eh.  but what is drew supposed to do?  Not take the best player?  

[macdaddy]

42 minutes ago, kg01 said:

[AHF]

15 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

eh.  but what is drew supposed to do?  Not take the best player?  

If you leave Coke to go work somewhere you don't use their formula at your new shop.  Since the Hawks could have **** blocked him and prevented him from being hired by Milwaukee until after the draft he should not have used Atlanta's scouting info in the draft process when they released him early in order to let him get the job in Milwaukee.  

[Buzzard]

#1 Babcock and #2 Knight for all the missed draft picks. #3 Belkin for messing with our spending, #4 Gearon for being a dumb-ass and getting Ferry removed. 5th for me was Larry, stealing our pick; but what would you expect? I am sure Ferry brought a lot of good intel from the Spurs camp when he was first hired. I don't blame players for taking more money, or money period. Does anyone ever expect a player to say "no, please don't pay me 22 million dollars"? Horford leaving, don't care anymore. We have Dwight and Sap, no congestion for playing time, and plenty of cap next season to fill a position of need.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Buzzard

[benhillboy]

I became a member of this great community to bash Joe.  He was a great player but his style was the total opposite of what I like to see from 2s, let alone one of the greatest physiques of one you'll ever see.