wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 The short answer: YES With the salary Cap ballooning to 109mill next year for teams and given how well Milsap has been playing he would command a contract of 4yr/100million range at the very least. Now that would be ok if he was 26, but not at 32....Not sure how much Howard would cry about a retooling effort, but we have to move Milsap this offseason, b/c his value diminishes as the season starts and Milsap would be a fool to not take the big payday elsewhere. Plus he knows the Hawks tried to move him last week, before good ole Al put an end to that. your move Bud...we need a good player in return. could the Hawks go all in....and risk losing it all by going after a superstar? Sure the same challenge as Milsap contract is stil there, but damn rolling the dice could be worth it! ATL trades: Milsap , Dennis and a future 1st for OKC trades: Russell Westbrook, Mitch McGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Westbrook is not signing long term in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandomFan Posted July 9, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, wolvetigers said: The short answer: YES The shorter answer: NO 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, h4wkfan said: Westbrook is not signing long term in Atlanta. Yes but we fiscally can't sign Milsap....why not take a risk on Westbrook, if he leaves then he leaves,...plus I think that team could really challenge for the East this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Diesel Posted July 9, 2016 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 No. We shouldn't trade Millsap. I think the combination of him and D12 will be a potent one. Moreover, instead of quitting right now, we should take advantage of this window to see if we can make a run. I say strengthen what we have instead of tearing it down and hoping for the future. If we were getting Westbrook to play with D12 and Sap, i would say..Do that. However, in absence of that, hold on to Sap and see what we can do at full capacity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, RandomFan said: The shorter answer: NO it's a simple math equation....I agree Westbrook is a pipe dream, but if the Hawks don't trade Milsap, then we will be in the exact same spot has OKC management with Durant this summer. the only problem is we won't get much value for SAP in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 We'd get more for him closer to the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, wolvetigers said: it's a simple math equation....I agree Westbrook is a pipe dream, but if the Hawks don't trade Milsap, then we will be in the exact same spot has OKC management with Durant this summer. the only problem is we won't get much value for SAP in Feb. So instead of OKC being in the same spot like they were with Durant, it'll just be us with Westbrook, plus we've given away young players and picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted July 9, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, wolvetigers said: Yes but we fiscally can't sign Milsap....why not take a risk on Westbrook, if he leaves then he leaves,...plus I think that team could really challenge for the East this season! So if he leaves we lose Milsap, Dennis, and our first as well ... In other words our future .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, DrReality said: We'd get more for him closer to the deadline. And you figure this how? Why would any Owner give up more assets to get a player that can walk 3months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, wolvetigers said: And you figure this how? Why would any Owner give up more assets to get a player that can walk 3months later. Oh, the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Diesel said: No. We shouldn't trade Millsap. I think the combination of him and D12 will be a potent one. Moreover, instead of quitting right now, we should take advantage of this window to see if we can make a run. I say strengthen what we have instead of tearing it down and hoping for the future. If we were getting Westbrook to play with D12 and Sap, i would say..Do that. However, in absence of that, hold on to Sap and see what we can do at full capacity. If Bud thinks we can make an ECF run as constructed then I'm with you. I actually do like our team, but hate to see us regress next year when SAP walks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, wolvetigers said: If Bud thinks we can make an ECF run as constructed then I'm with you. I actually do like our team, but hate to see us regress next year when SAP walks We'd regress even further when Westbrook walks and we've given away future picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Westbrook is walking no matter what, so if you try to commit a LOT in a trade for him, you have to really be for SURE that you can compete for a title with him. And you likely can't, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: So instead of OKC being in the same spot like they were with Durant, it'll just be us with Westbrook, plus we've given away young players and picks. You wouldn't take that risk to have arguably a top 5 player on our team? Even if it's for one full season... When is the last time the Hawks had a superstar? Here is a plan, let's wait and hope we get lucky in the draft.....I see why we never win anything in any sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Westbrook goes to LA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, capstone21 said: So if he leaves we lose Milsap, Dennis, and our first as well ... In other words our future .... And what future is that exactly? The same one that has us losing in the 2nd round every year? Keeping Milsap is the safe play. ".. you can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But you can't win much either. ". Mike McDermott (Rounders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Oh, the irony. Lot of trades at the deadline who need one more to to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: We'd regress even further when Westbrook walks and we've given away future picks. A future PICK not picks....and that pick can be the Minnesota's pick when we drafted Adriene Payne....remember how good that pick was? Edited July 9, 2016 by wolvetigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 31 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Oh, the irony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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