Interest in 2016 Dynasty Draft?

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, pimp said:

yes, if you are on your phone, try changing the theme to view the post.
You have pick #13

Wtf...I'm so confused ...not sure why he couldn't just post the muthafucker normal style...he gotta be all fancy...and cap gotta hold the draft hostage...bad start here fack

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

I can't see it if that's what AHF posted... And I'm on mobile

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

7 hours ago, AHF said:

2016	Draft Order
1	capstone21
2	PSSSHHHRRR87
3	ViewsFromTheSquawk
4	Alex
5	IheartVolt
6	pimp
7	AHF
8	JayBirdHawk
9	TheFuzz
10	LucastheThird
11	lethalweapon3
12	AtlHawks3
13	Spud2Nique
14	Diesel
15	Buzzard
16	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
17	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
18	Buzzard
19	Diesel
20	Spud2Nique
21	AtlHawks3
22	lethalweapon3
23	LucastheThird
24	TheFuzz
25	JayBirdHawk
26	AHF
27	pimp
28	IheartVolt
29	Alex
30	ViewsFromTheSquawk
31	PSSSHHHRRR87
32	capstone21
33	capstone21
34	PSSSHHHRRR87
35	ViewsFromTheSquawk
36	Alex
37	IheartVolt
38	pimp
39	AHF
40	JayBirdHawk
41	TheFuzz
42	LucastheThird
43	lethalweapon3
44	AtlHawks3
45	Spud2Nique
46	Diesel
47	Buzzard
48	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
49	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
50	Buzzard
51	Diesel
52	Spud2Nique
53	AtlHawks3
54	lethalweapon3
55	LucastheThird
56	TheFuzz
57	JayBirdHawk
58	AHF
59	pimp
60	IheartVolt
61	Alex
62	ViewsFromTheSquawk
63	PSSSHHHRRR87
64	capstone21
65	capstone21
66	PSSSHHHRRR87
67	ViewsFromTheSquawk
68	Alex
69	IheartVolt
70	pimp
71	AHF
72	JayBirdHawk
73	TheFuzz
74	LucastheThird
75	lethalweapon3
76	AtlHawks3
77	Spud2Nique
78	Diesel
79	Buzzard
80	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
81	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
82	Buzzard
83	Diesel
84	Spud2Nique
85	AtlHawks3
86	lethalweapon3
87	LucastheThird
88	TheFuzz
89	JayBirdHawk
90	AHF
91	pimp
92	IheartVolt
93	Alex
94	ViewsFromTheSquawk
95	PSSSHHHRRR87
96	capstone21
97	capstone21
98	PSSSHHHRRR87
99	ViewsFromTheSquawk
100	Alex
101	IheartVolt
102	pimp
103	AHF
104	JayBirdHawk
105	TheFuzz
106	LucastheThird
107	lethalweapon3
108	AtlHawks3
109	Spud2Nique
110	Diesel
111	Buzzard
112	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
113	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
114	Buzzard
115	Diesel
116	Spud2Nique
117	AtlHawks3
118	lethalweapon3
119	LucastheThird
120	TheFuzz
121	JayBirdHawk
122	AHF
123	pimp
124	IheartVolt
125	Alex
126	ViewsFromTheSquawk
127	PSSSHHHRRR87
128	capstone21
129	capstone21
130	PSSSHHHRRR87
131	ViewsFromTheSquawk
132	Alex
133	IheartVolt
134	pimp
135	AHF
136	JayBirdHawk
137	TheFuzz
138	LucastheThird
139	lethalweapon3
140	AtlHawks3
141	Spud2Nique
142	Diesel
143	Buzzard
144	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
145	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
146	Buzzard
147	Diesel
148	Spud2Nique
149	AtlHawks3
150	lethalweapon3
151	LucastheThird
152	TheFuzz
153	JayBirdHawk
154	AHF
155	pimp
156	IheartVolt
157	Alex
158	ViewsFromTheSquawk
159	PSSSHHHRRR87
160	capstone21
161	capstone21
162	PSSSHHHRRR87
163	ViewsFromTheSquawk
164	Alex
165	IheartVolt
166	pimp
167	AHF
168	JayBirdHawk
169	TheFuzz
170	LucastheThird
171	lethalweapon3
172	AtlHawks3
173	Spud2Nique
174	Diesel
175	Buzzard
176	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
177	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle
178	Buzzard
179	Diesel
180	Spud2Nique
181	AtlHawks3
182	lethalweapon3
183	LucastheThird
184	TheFuzz
185	JayBirdHawk
186	AHF
187	pimp
188	IheartVolt
189	Alex
190	ViewsFromTheSquawk
191	PSSSHHHRRR87
192	capstone21
193	capstone21
194	PSSSHHHRRR87
195	ViewsFromTheSquawk
196	Alex
197	IheartVolt
198	pimp
199	AHF
200	JayBirdHawk
201	TheFuzz
202	LucastheThird
203	lethalweapon3
204	AtlHawks3
205	Spud2Nique
206	Diesel
207	Buzzard
208	HopefulHawksFan/ThomasCredle

Number 3..... I got my eye on one player and one player only...Who is it???!?!?

[Guest]

Are hopefulhawksfan and Thomascredlr tag teamin? Lol

[Guest]

On July 19, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Buzzard said:

I was having a hard time figuring why you were so concerned with minutes and it hit me. You want it to be about 82 games and that times so many minutes per game in the season; then limit the players to those minutes for your team and do the math. Like you said, a simple spreadsheet will do that all day long.

I just want to know who drafted the best players overall but make everyone declare a traditional starting five for the best eight. And also do a best 13 for shits and giggles. I think the only way to half way do that is to use a overall fantasy scoring system based on the whole season that each player had.

We could do it both ways for sure!

Yes can we use some kind of a scoring system to determine some kind of a winner. Drafting and debating is fun as hell but why not have some way of measuring how we draft? Whether it's fantasy points, real life points lol...just something.

[AHF]

9 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

Are hopefulhawksfan and Thomascredlr tag teamin? Lol

Since they are new and/or not regularly posting, I let them in with some redundancy to hopefully avoid one flaking.  We always end up with a tag team or two anyway.  Hopeful has been more engaged so far.

[lethalweapon3]

6 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

Yes can we use some kind of a scoring system to determine some kind of a winner. Drafting and debating is fun as hell but why not have some way of measuring how we draft? Whether it's fantasy points, real life points lol...just something.

In past seasons, AFTER the NBA season was over, we did:

• average PER (Player Efficiency Ratings, take the totals and divide by the number of rounds)
• total WS (sum the Win Shares, w/o dividing by 36 or 48 or whatever)
• 70% EWA (Estimated Wins Added; that percentage often seemed to give a reasonable number for wins during an 82-game season)

Of course, that only works post-season for comparative purposes, since rookies/injured players from 2014-15/Eurostars didn't get any NBA floor burn last season. And that would just be counting the players; the drafted head coach theoretically influences those values one way or another.

All I did do post-draft is find a database like Mark Porcaro's and do physical attribute comps like average age/height/weight, then leave it to the individual team GMs if they want to summarize the wonders of their particular draft haul.

Since this is designed to be a draft for the next 5 years, how your team adds up in September 2016 or June 2017 doesn't really tell the full story as far as "winners" go. What I'd like to see is somebody dig into the 2011 Dynasty Draft (assuming there was one) and run the numbers for those teams based on 2015-16 data.

~lw3

[lethalweapon3]

I'm not the biggest fan of the C.A.R.M.E.L.O. projections that FiveThirtyEight is whipping up ("identifies similar players throughout NBA history and uses them to develop a probabilistic forecast of what a current NBA player’s future might look like"), but for our purposes they might be useful in establishing steady 7-year projections of WAR (Wins Above Replacement) that could be summed up easily for the next five seasons. The downside is that young players without much history generally have low/modest projections until they've established themselves as stars.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/

~lw3

[Guest]

1 hour ago, lethalweapon3 said:

In past seasons, AFTER the NBA season was over, we did:

• average PER (Player Efficiency Ratings, take the totals and divide by the number of rounds)
• total WS (sum the Win Shares, w/o dividing by 36 or 48 or whatever)
• 70% EWA (Estimated Wins Added; that percentage often seemed to give a reasonable number for wins during an 82-game season)

Of course, that only works post-season for comparative purposes, since rookies/injured players from 2014-15/Eurostars didn't get any NBA floor burn last season. And that would just be counting the players; the drafted head coach theoretically influences those values one way or another.

All I did do post-draft is find a database like Mark Porcaro's and do physical attribute comps like average age/height/weight, then leave it to the individual team GMs if they want to summarize the wonders of their particular draft haul.

Since this is designed to be a draft for the next 5 years, how your team adds up in September 2016 or June 2017 doesn't really tell the full story as far as "winners" go. What I'd like to see is somebody dig into the 2011 Dynasty Draft (assuming there was one) and run the numbers for those teams based on 2015-16 data.

~lw3

Ya I was gonna say that works great except for trying to draft for the future.Like the way I drafted last year was take a bunch of players fromthe2013 draft that were super strong but also around age 20-23. I figured that my team would be competitive now but have a shot at the title for multiple years starting in 2017-2020. I think we need to continue to look at past dynasty drafts up to 5 years later to determine who actually did well.

 

I mean if we did it strictly based on PER , WS, and EWA at the end of this year only then I'd change my strategy and pick more vets and be in WIN NOW mode vs trying to groom people in my organization. BSPN or Yahoo or lw3 (:-)) need to come up with a fantasy machine that crunches #'s to make sense of what we are doing here in our fantasy draft. We could call it "the 5 year NBA championship cruncher".... Just put the players names in and it would give you all their projected stats and #'s for the next 5 years. I think you are capable of this lw3! I have faith in you lol

[Alex]

So when is the dynasty draft officially open for business?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Alex said:

So when is the dynasty draft officially open for business?

@Alex it is, waiting impatiently for pick #2

[Alex]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

@Alex it is, waiting impatiently for pick #2

Whoops.  Didn't even see the other thread.

[jy23]

I missed it? DAMN IT!!! This is my first year not participating, I hate y'all lol. 

[AHF]

21 minutes ago, jy23 said:

I missed it? DAMN IT!!! This is my first year not participating, I hate y'all lol. 

You are officially first alternate.  As you know, that will likely come to pass.

[jy23]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

You are officially first alternate.  As you know, that will likely come to pass.

I'm sure it will lol