The ex-Hawk All-Stars Thread

[Plainview1981]

Questions about Boston's rebounding are starting to pop up:

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4724259/celtics-have-a-small-problem-and-it-shows-in-rebound-numbers

[Admin]

Hell they pretty much got an all works rebounding game for Horford. Wait till he starts piling up 1 and 2 rebound games then they'll really notice. Wait till they play Cleveland and Horford checks his balls at the gate. They are gonna hate him and his contract in Boston.

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[Thomas]

8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

In 2 games, the Celtics have allowed 33 offensive rebounds & 39 second-chance points.

The Green Flash. Get the money and avoid the glass in a snap. Last night was almost too good to be true with the glass disparity between Dwight's game and Al's game. At least one question was answered resoundingly on opening night for us.

[pimp]

9 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This made me laugh.....

Boston is looking for anyone who can box out.... please. Anyone.

this made me laugh..they think he can just take over games like Lebron. 


Post#56 » by AgentGreen » Today 3:20 am

Horford needs to step up and show that he's the man in this team.. He likes to play like a servant, you arent in Atlanta anymore Al. By the way i love his game, he's a huge upgrade for us. Just needs to take the game over for us when its needed

Edited October 28, 2016 by pimp

[Guest]

2 hours ago, pimp said:

this made me laugh..they think he can just take over games like Lebron. 


Post#56 » by AgentGreen » Today 3:20 am

Horford needs to step up and show that he's the man in this team.. He likes to play like a servant, you arent in Atlanta anymore Al. By the way i love his game, he's a huge upgrade for us. Just needs to take the game over for us when its needed

That's adorable! 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, pimp said:

this made me laugh..they think he can just take over games like Lebron. 


Post#56 » by AgentGreen » Today 3:20 am

Horford needs to step up and show that he's the man in this team.. He likes to play like a servant, you arent in Atlanta anymore Al. By the way i love his game, he's a huge upgrade for us. Just needs to take the game over for us when its needed

They're  in for a long season if they think Horfy is 'That Guy'. Smh.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, pimp said:

this made me laugh..they think he can just take over games like Lebron. 


Post#56 » by AgentGreen » Today 3:20 am

Horford needs to step up and show that he's the man in this team.. He likes to play like a servant, you arent in Atlanta anymore Al. By the way i love his game, he's a huge upgrade for us. Just needs to take the game over for us when its needed

 Yeah, alls he's gotta do is just take over.  What's he waiting for?

ETA: I heard a stat thrown around that said, so far, BOS has rebounded about 67% of the possible defensive rebounds.  Worst in the league last season was 72%.  They 'bout to set some records.

ETA: It doesn't matter how great(sic) a defensive team you are if you're constantly having to play D for 48 consecutive seconds.  #Reboardsmatter

Edited October 28, 2016 by kg01

[LamarHampton]

These BOS posts are hilarious ... 

They're just two games into the season and the disappointment is already mounting.  The realization of unfounded expectations is coming alive.

Not that I'm wishing it on the man or anything, but can you imagine the outrage and disappointment if (after paying him $30M/yr) Alice tears another titty?? All of Boston would f*ckin go insane. Nobody could handle it.  BSPN's website would short circuit. There would be a presidential press conference. All kinds of chaos would ensue. 

I would *almost* feel bad.

...

Al "taking over games" hahahahahahaha       still can't stop laughing about that!

[RandomFan]

This reddit thread is absolutely hilarious. (Rebound the fricking ball!)  

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/59t5iz/rebound_the_fricking_ball/

[Lurker]

***sips tea on Teague***

(not that I don't like him, though)

[Sarcatic1]

Jeff was awful on the offensive end.  Actually played solid defensively and was passing well but couldn't make a bucket to save his life

I still say he will play better around December. Not working out this summer because of that injury set him back some

I know many are picking the Pacers to give the Cavs trouble but man they cant defend for shid and that bench is awful

They will be around that 5 and 6th seed area unless they can flip Monta and get a bigger guard in there.

[RandomFan]

Hrmm, seems Teague is going through an adjustment period as well. After losing to Kenny and the Nets, and only scoring 4 points in 29 minutes while playing terrible defense, Pacers fans are already calling for him to be benched.

[Thomas]

When looking at the boxscore and seeing that Jeff did not go to the foul line then those not so good memories do come back. Asleep at the wheel roundball from yore. Understanding that two games are indeed only two games but the lack of consistent aggressiveness is a big part of why he is not here. 

[Sarcatic1]

23 minutes ago, Thomas said:

When looking at the boxscore and seeing that Jeff did not go to the foul line then those not so good memories do come back. Asleep at the wheel roundball from yore. Understanding that two games are indeed only two games but the lack of consistent aggressiveness is a big part of why he is not here. 

Nah he was aggressive,. He got in early foul trouble and couldnt find a Rhythm. He even used his left when attacking the basket a few times. Rarely used his left here. Had three of his 3's go in and pop out. He will be alright

[hazer]

On 10/27/2016 at 2:37 PM, High5 said:

 

Horford also had 6 assists, 4 blocks, and was +13. Let's not be petty all season. At least not until they lose because of the rebounding. :) 

Indiana had some great stat lines, but they still needed OT at home to win. Gonna need more on the defensive end and from their bench on most nights.

That's just it, he's only "alright".

[rd79]

Concussion? Did he beat his head on his desk while sitting in front of his computer and looking at Dwight's rebound numbers?

[HawkItus]

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2016/11/01/doyel-wasnt-jeff-teague-supposed-better-than/93066754/

Doyel: Wasn’t Jeff Teague supposed to be better than this?

Gregg Doyel , gregg.doyel@indystar.com11:47 p.m. EDT November 1, 2016

 

 

(Photo: Mykal_McEldowney / Indy_Star)

INDIANAPOLIS – Four games into the season, the Indiana Pacers have a point guard problem. His name is Jeff Teague, and he’s shooting poorly. Defending worse. Displaying, at times, a startling lack of interest.

Wasn’t he supposed to be the solution?

Luckily for Teague and the rest of the Pacers, Paul George went into superstar mode Tuesday night — “It was like a video game,” teammate Thaddeus Young said — and that was enough to lift Indiana past the really bad Los Angeles Lakers 115-108.

Do me a favor, and don’t confuse “my team won” with “my team doesn’t have a major problem.” Are the Pacers your team? Great. But your team has a major problem.

Let’s cut Teague some slack and acknowledge that he’s still finding his way. New team, new system, new teammates. It’s not a new city — Teague graduated from Pike High School — and who doesn’t want the hometown kid to do well? Maybe, when all is said and done, he will do well. For sure he’ll be better than he has been through four games.

• BOX SCORE: Pacers 115, Lakers 108

Pacers at Bucks, 8 p.m. Thursday, FSI

On the season, Teague is shooting 22 percent from the floor (11-of-50), 6.7 percent on 3-pointers (1-of-15) and 66.7 percent on free throws (10-of-15). It’s a small sample size, just four games, but Teague is shooting poorly in all three categories. He was shooting so badly Tuesday night, the Lakers dropped off him late in the fourth quarter, clogging the lane and leaving Teague alone behind the 3-point arc. Teague shot two of them, missed them both, and the Lakers capitalized at the other end.

Understand, this game had no business being close. The Lakers were playing their third road game in five days, they’re headed for the bottom of the Western Conference, and they played poorly even for them on Tuesday night: 21.4 percent shooting on 3-pointers, 14 assists, 19 turnovers. They were terrible.

And they led Indiana 108-107 with less than 2 minutes left.

That’s when Paul George took over, but not with his point guard creating opportunities for him.

Nah, didn’t happen that way.

Because Teague wasn’t able to get the offense going, Paul George took it upon himself. He drove into the lane and hit a difficult scoop shot. He stuck an 18-footer. Then another. And another. He hit two free throws. Then two more. Then it was over.

George scored all 12 Pacers points in the final 3:58, and a disaster had been averted. And this would have been a disaster, make no mistake. The Pacers already had lost two consecutive games, following their encouraging victory against Dallas in the season opener with discouraging losses at Brooklyn and Chicago, losses that were so bad, these were some of coach Nate McMillan’s comments before the game Tuesday:

“The tape doesn’t lie. It shows your effort, how you’re playing, executing. There were lots of things on those tapes we didn’t like.”

“I want to see more urgency at both ends of the floor.”

 

 

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Indiana Pacers forward Paul George (13) hits his third shot in a row late in the fourth quarter over Los Angeles Lakers guard D'Angelo Russell (1) in the second half at Bankers Life Fieldhouse on Nov. 1, 2016.  Mykal_McEldowney/Indy_Star

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He didn’t see it Tuesday night. He saw a victory, yes I know that, but he saw it unfold at times in dispiriting fashion. The Pacers were sleepwalking early — George shot an air ball, Teague shot an air ball and Monta Ellis simply dropped the ball on the perimeter — before scoring their first points of the game. Moments later Ellis was standing on the perimeter, holding the ball, looking around, when Lakers guard Jose Calderon just took it from him.

It’s too early for the Pacers to lack such focus, such intensity, but it’s also too early for Bankers Life Fieldhouse to be roughly one-fifth empty. Which it was Tuesday night, the second home game of the season. The announced crowd was 15,348, but, well, you know. What is it they say about numbers? Sometimes they lie?

Afterward McMillan spoke the truth about Paul George’s one-man show down the stretch, saying the Pacers offense was “searching for places to go” and that “I would like to see us have more flow to our offense.”

Which led to a question about his point guard, specifically Teague’s struggles with his shot.

“I don’t want to put pressure on him,” McMillan said. “We’re running a couple sets to try to get him involved. ‘Just let the game come to you,’ is what I’ve told him. ‘Don’t be concerned about your shots not falling. You work on that every singe day. That will come.’ ”

You have to believe it will. Teague was a 44.5 percent shooter, 35.5 percent on 3-pointers, in seven seasons in Atlanta. But he was 4-of-15 on Tuesday night. He shot two air balls from less than 5 feet. He missed both free throws, his only free throws in the past three games.

He’s better than this.

But for four games he has been icy on offense, and disastrous on defense. Meanwhile, the point guard he replaced, George Hill, has been tearing it up in Utah.Is that not fair to mention? Sue me. I’m mentioning it. Through four games, Hill is leading the Jazz at 20.2 ppg. He has a nearly 5-to-1 ratio of assists (19) to turnovers (4).

Most media folks around here, me included, lauded the Teague-for-Hill transition. It was a net win for the Pacers, we said. Yes, we acknowledged, Hill is a better defender. But Teague’s offense will make up the difference, and then some.

Just watch.

That’s what we said then. What am I saying now?

Four games into the season, it looks like we were wrong. Four games into the season, we owe George Hill an apology.

Find IndyStar columnist Gregg Doyel on Twitter at @GreggDoyelStar or atwww.facebook.com/gregg.doyel.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, HawkItus said:

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2016/11/01/doyel-wasnt-jeff-teague-supposed-better-than/93066754/

Doyel: Wasn’t Jeff Teague supposed to be better than this?

Gregg Doyel , gregg.doyel@indystar.com11:47 p.m. EDT November 1, 2016

 

 

(Photo: Mykal_McEldowney / Indy_Star)

INDIANAPOLIS – Four games into the season, the Indiana Pacers have a point guard problem. His name is Jeff Teague, and he’s shooting poorly. Defending worse. Displaying, at times, a startling lack of interest.

Wasn’t he supposed to be the solution?

Luckily for Teague and the rest of the Pacers, Paul George went into superstar mode Tuesday night — “It was like a video game,” teammate Thaddeus Young said — and that was enough to lift Indiana past the really bad Los Angeles Lakers 115-108.

Do me a favor, and don’t confuse “my team won” with “my team doesn’t have a major problem.” Are the Pacers your team? Great. But your team has a major problem.

Let’s cut Teague some slack and acknowledge that he’s still finding his way. New team, new system, new teammates. It’s not a new city — Teague graduated from Pike High School — and who doesn’t want the hometown kid to do well? Maybe, when all is said and done, he will do well. For sure he’ll be better than he has been through four games.

• BOX SCORE: Pacers 115, Lakers 108

Pacers at Bucks, 8 p.m. Thursday, FSI

On the season, Teague is shooting 22 percent from the floor (11-of-50), 6.7 percent on 3-pointers (1-of-15) and 66.7 percent on free throws (10-of-15). It’s a small sample size, just four games, but Teague is shooting poorly in all three categories. He was shooting so badly Tuesday night, the Lakers dropped off him late in the fourth quarter, clogging the lane and leaving Teague alone behind the 3-point arc. Teague shot two of them, missed them both, and the Lakers capitalized at the other end.

Understand, this game had no business being close. The Lakers were playing their third road game in five days, they’re headed for the bottom of the Western Conference, and they played poorly even for them on Tuesday night: 21.4 percent shooting on 3-pointers, 14 assists, 19 turnovers. They were terrible.

And they led Indiana 108-107 with less than 2 minutes left.

That’s when Paul George took over, but not with his point guard creating opportunities for him.

Nah, didn’t happen that way.

Because Teague wasn’t able to get the offense going, Paul George took it upon himself. He drove into the lane and hit a difficult scoop shot. He stuck an 18-footer. Then another. And another. He hit two free throws. Then two more. Then it was over.

George scored all 12 Pacers points in the final 3:58, and a disaster had been averted. And this would have been a disaster, make no mistake. The Pacers already had lost two consecutive games, following their encouraging victory against Dallas in the season opener with discouraging losses at Brooklyn and Chicago, losses that were so bad, these were some of coach Nate McMillan’s comments before the game Tuesday:

“The tape doesn’t lie. It shows your effort, how you’re playing, executing. There were lots of things on those tapes we didn’t like.”

“I want to see more urgency at both ends of the floor.”

 

 

FacebookTwitterGoogle+LinkedIn

Indiana Pacers vs. Los Angeles Lakers

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Indiana Pacers forward Paul George (13) hits his third shot in a row late in the fourth quarter over Los Angeles Lakers guard D'Angelo Russell (1) in the second half at Bankers Life Fieldhouse on Nov. 1, 2016.  Mykal_McEldowney/Indy_Star

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He didn’t see it Tuesday night. He saw a victory, yes I know that, but he saw it unfold at times in dispiriting fashion. The Pacers were sleepwalking early — George shot an air ball, Teague shot an air ball and Monta Ellis simply dropped the ball on the perimeter — before scoring their first points of the game. Moments later Ellis was standing on the perimeter, holding the ball, looking around, when Lakers guard Jose Calderon just took it from him.

It’s too early for the Pacers to lack such focus, such intensity, but it’s also too early for Bankers Life Fieldhouse to be roughly one-fifth empty. Which it was Tuesday night, the second home game of the season. The announced crowd was 15,348, but, well, you know. What is it they say about numbers? Sometimes they lie?

Afterward McMillan spoke the truth about Paul George’s one-man show down the stretch, saying the Pacers offense was “searching for places to go” and that “I would like to see us have more flow to our offense.”

Which led to a question about his point guard, specifically Teague’s struggles with his shot.

“I don’t want to put pressure on him,” McMillan said. “We’re running a couple sets to try to get him involved. ‘Just let the game come to you,’ is what I’ve told him. ‘Don’t be concerned about your shots not falling. You work on that every singe day. That will come.’ ”

You have to believe it will. Teague was a 44.5 percent shooter, 35.5 percent on 3-pointers, in seven seasons in Atlanta. But he was 4-of-15 on Tuesday night. He shot two air balls from less than 5 feet. He missed both free throws, his only free throws in the past three games.

He’s better than this.

But for four games he has been icy on offense, and disastrous on defense. Meanwhile, the point guard he replaced, George Hill, has been tearing it up in Utah.Is that not fair to mention? Sue me. I’m mentioning it. Through four games, Hill is leading the Jazz at 20.2 ppg. He has a nearly 5-to-1 ratio of assists (19) to turnovers (4).

Most media folks around here, me included, lauded the Teague-for-Hill transition. It was a net win for the Pacers, we said. Yes, we acknowledged, Hill is a better defender. But Teague’s offense will make up the difference, and then some.

Just watch.

That’s what we said then. What am I saying now?

Four games into the season, it looks like we were wrong. Four games into the season, we owe George Hill an apology.

Find IndyStar columnist Gregg Doyel on Twitter at @GreggDoyelStar or atwww.facebook.com/gregg.doyel.

How many times have we said this:

"  Displaying, at times, a startling lack of interest. "  That's Jeffy

[Guest]

I have a feeling that same article will be re-written in a week or so.  Only where it says "Jeff Teague" it'll say "Alice wHorford".

35 minutes ago, rd79 said:

Concussion? Did he beat his head on his desk while sitting in front of his computer and looking at Dwight's rebound numbers?

  "Hehe, I saw Tristan comin' so I had to get outta dere.  Shhh, BOS won't know he own me for another few weeks. #DodgedThatBulletForAWhile  Suck it, Hawgs fans."

[macdaddy]

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According to the team, Horford was hit in the head during Monday's practice. Initially, he did not display concussion symptoms, so he was cleared to participate in Tuesday's practice. Symptoms did appear during that practice, though, so he was immediately put into the NBA's concussion protocol.