Little Goldie should be traded.

[HawkItus]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

Uhm.. .that was our rebuilding year... let me help you.

 

We drafted Terry, Glover, Bowdler, and Jackson (who we traded to Philly). 
We then traded Smitty for Rider and JJ (both of whom were considered young guys). 

We started off with Terry/Rider as our starting backcourt.  Rider was the 2 but everytime he hit the floor, he demanded the ball.  After a while Terry would just give him the ball and run to the corner.

In fact, At one point, in an interview,Terry said that he was not a PG.. but he was a "GUARD".

Yes.. after that  Lenny did put more trust in the veteran Coles because Terry would come in and get embarrased and then he would try to give the ball to Rider to run the offense.  I specifically remember Mookie putting up a triple double on Terry and I think it was Points, Steals, and Assists.   It was so bad that Terry couldn't get the ball past halfcourt. 

We eventually released Rider around Feb. because of his off the court shanangins but on the court, he did just as much damage because he was a scorer who got to run the offense and look for his shot.

 

I'm talking about Jimmy Jackson lol.  You are so wrong dude.

10	Drew Barry	PG	6-5	191	February 17, 1973	us	2	Georgia Institute of Technology
3	Cal Bowdler	SF	6-10	245	March 31, 1977	us	R	Old Dominion University
12	Bimbo Coles	PG	6-1	180	April 22, 1968	us	9	Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
4	Chris Crawford	PF	6-9	235	May 13, 1975	us	2	Marquette University
20	LaPhonso Ellis	PF	6-8	240	May 5, 1970	us	7	University of Notre Dame
5	Dion Glover	SG	6-5	228	October 22, 1978	us	R	Georgia Institute of Technology
44	Alan Henderson	PF	6-9	235	December 2, 1972	us	4	Indiana University
22	Jim Jackson	SF	6-6	220	October 14, 1970	us	7	Ohio State University
24	Anthony Johnson	PG	6-3	190	October 2, 1974	us	2	College of Charleston
7	Roshown McLeod	SF	6-8	221	November 17, 1975	us	1	Duke University
55	Dikembe Mutombo	C	7-2	245	June 25, 1966	cd	8	Georgetown University
34	Isaiah Rider	SG	6-5	215	March 12, 1971	us	6	University of Nevada, Las Vegas
31	Jason Terry	PG	6-2	185	September 15, 1977	us	R	University of Arizona
42	Lorenzen Wright	C	6-11	225	November 4, 1975	us	3	University of Memphis

[Diesel]

2 minutes ago, HawkItus said:

I'm talking about Jimmy Jackson lol.  You are so wrong dude.

Jimmy Jackson came in the Portland trade.

We drafted Jumaine Jackson and traded him to Philly for 2 2nd round picks (I think). 

Sorry that Jumaine Jones. 

 

 

[Admin]

1 minute ago, HawkItus said:

If he his a 30 ppg player then I really hate the idea of trading.  He'd be a bigger IT at that point. 

I agree with that. The question is would you rather have a guy who's more of the type to be a 10 apg guy like Fox or a guy who's more likely to be the score 1st type like Dennis? I prefer the more traditional type of PG but I'm not disappointed by Dennis now nor would I be then. I'm also not interested in giving him away either. But to get 2 inches, 20 lbs and save a lot of money while getting a more traditional type of PG I would absolutely do it. 

[Lurker]

Just now, Dolfan23 said:

I agree with that. The question is would you rather have a guy who's more of the type to be a 10 apg guy like Fox or a guy who's more likely to be the score 1st type like Dennis? I prefer the more traditional type of PG but I'm not disappointed by Dennis now nor would I be then. I'm also not interested in giving him away either. But to get 2 inches, 20 lbs and save a lot of money while getting a more traditional type of PG I would absolutely do it. 

Fox measured at less than 140 pounds at the combine...

[Diesel]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

Fox measured at less than 140 pounds at the combine...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/De-Aaron-Fox-72510/

 

[HawkItus]

Just now, Dolfan23 said:

I agree with that. The question is would you rather have a guy who's more of the type to be a 10 apg guy like Fox or a guy who's more likely to be the score 1st type like Dennis? I prefer the more traditional type of PG but I'm not disappointed by Dennis now nor would I be then. I'm also not interested in giving him away either. But to get 2 inches, 20 lbs and save a lot of money while getting a more traditional type of PG I would absolutely do it. 

Depends on the team Dolf.  I personally don't see a 20 point scorer outside of Dennis or THJ on our roster right now.  Someone has to score those points.  A plus 20 scorer is not easy to develop or find.  I say give me the special scorer and I'll find a passer at the other positions.  

[Flight]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

Fox measured at less than 140 pounds at the combine...

He measured 170... 

[Admin]

2 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Fox measured at less than 140 pounds at the combine...

What?? 

[Lurker]

Just now, Diesel said:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/De-Aaron-Fox-72510/

 

I can't produce the tweet but I remember clearly I saw a tweet that said Fox's actual weight was 139 pounds at the combine. Now that isn't an issue in the long haul but...still.

[Admin]

1 minute ago, HawkItus said:

Depends on the team Dolf.  I personally don't see a 20 point scorer outside of Dennis or THJ on our roster right now.  Someone has to score those points.  A plus 20 scorer is not easy to develop or find.  I say give me the special scorer and I'll find a passer at the other positions.  

I don't mind that as long as your 20 ppg score first PG doesn't become a black hole on offense. I don't think that's where Dennis is headed because of our system and coaching staff but it's certainly possible. 

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Flight said:

He measured 170... 

I legit saw something that said he weighed much less than that....now it could be fake news as its twitter though.

[HawkItus]

Just now, Dolfan23 said:

I don't mind that as long as your 20 ppg score first PG doesn't become a black hole on offense. I don't think that's where Dennis is headed because of our system and coaching staff but it's certainly possible. 

I agree he could go the wrong way.  But, even then people give up assets for scoring.   So, let him grow, see what he is and react accordingly.  

[DJlaysitup]

The odds of Dennis averaging 30 ppg are about the same as me being accepted to the astronaut program

[Admin]

1 minute ago, DJlaysitup said:

The odds of Dennis averaging 30 ppg are about the same as me being accepted to the astronaut program

It's never too late to follow your dreams buddy :) 

[DJlaysitup]

1 minute ago, Dolfan23 said:

It's never too late to follow your dreams buddy :) 

They might take me for the first shot to Mars - I doubt many others would be interested

[Lurker]

Fox didn't look like a pass first PG to me when I watched Kentucky, just FWIW. I think he is good but he desperately needs for the jumper that appeared late in the season and in the postseason to be who he really is.

[AHF]

4 minutes ago, Dolfan23 said:

It's never too late to follow your dreams buddy :) 

[willthepureshooter]

24 minutes ago, Diesel said:

The Better PG??

Dennis is an off Gaurd.  Fox has tools!

What tools? He can't shoot.

Edited July 3, 2017 by willthepureshooter
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[Watchman]

1 minute ago, willthepureshooter said:

What tools? He can't shoot.

Dennis can't pass.  Looks like we have a standoff here folks.

[Lurker]

6 minutes ago, willthepureshooter said:

What tools? He can't shoot.

Fox probably has a little more shake/wiggle to his game and he has the tools to be lockdown on defense. That's it...I'm not sure his passing is that great.

also, my laptop .-. Had to go to my tablet to answer this.