GameTime Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Actually our caphold for him automatically jumps as soon as he signs the offer sheet to the dollar amount he signs for. We would have to renounce his rights (meaning he signs with other team) to be able to use our space. So if we get Parsons to sign he is ours if they want Bosh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp8BhA8khvI&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 yeah but that would require Parsons actually signing an offer sheet and I don't think he'd do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 yeah but that would require Parsons actually signing an offer sheet and I don't think he'd do that. Why wouldn't he? (If he is maxed out) Other than collusion..... (Hey Silver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Id think either Chandler is our under the radar player, or he told Ferry he wasn't coming here. I doubt we'd go after some of the guys we had if Parsons was truly available to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 But the Salmon's contract could be used to our advantage and theirs if they went after Bosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Why wouldn't he? (If he is maxed out) Other than collusion..... (Hey Silver) I think he would ignore us and sign an offer sheet with Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted July 7, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think Parsons is under orders from Houston to refuse to sign any offer sheet until they see where their big targets wind up. If they go elsewhere then they will simply give him a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Parsons at a max is a hard pill to swallow. I am not sure any team will pony that up for 16 PPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Parsons at a max is a hard pill to swallow. I am not sure any team will pony that up for 16 PPG. Giving Deng 12 mill when he is on the slight decline (And I really like Deng)..... you wouldn't give 2 mill more to someone that will improve and is a much better shooter/passer? But I agree all of these 10+ mill contracts are hard pills to swallow @Buzzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 7, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 But the Salmon's contract could be used to our advantage and theirs if they went after Bosh. No. They could just let Parsons go if they wanted. Salmon's contract is useful for players already under contract where that team can then take back that same value. For us, we have the cap space to absorb Parsons so we could just acquire him by signing him or through S&T without the need for Salmons (after we cut Salmons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Giving Deng 12 mill when he is on the slight decline (And I really like Deng)..... you wouldn't give 2 mill more to someone that will improve and is a much better shooter/passer? But I agree all of these 10+ mill contracts are hard pills to swallow @Buzzard Deng at 12 for two to three years vs Parsons at 14 for three to four years. If Parsons does not improve he will be much harder to move. Deng on the other hand is a easier trade chip to move on his last season. Just an opinion though...I hate getting stuck with big contracts if they are not or do not become All-Stars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Makes perfect sense, everyone is talking about Deng so that can't be who Ferry's actually after. Landing Parsons would be a coup for the Hawks, and more in line with how Ferry operates from outta nowhere. Oh LAWD: Teague, Korver, Parsons, Sap, Horf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 But who has the higher ceiling at this point? Parsons or Deng. Parsons would be a star in Budz system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Lazy question... if they sign Bosh to a max, can they also sign Parsons to a max? If that's the case, every vibe Parsons has given points to him wanting to be part of what they're doing in HOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimaskway23 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I dont think ferry gives out that kinda money unless its a melo or lebron. It would send bad vibes in the locker room for a nonsuperstar to be making more than them including horford. Ferry will only offer what he feels is good value. I doubt we offer anything close to the max for him, although I really do want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 HEY EVERYONE! I am here to ruin another thread. This is not true. Parson's caphold does not actually increase once he signs an offer sheet. This is likely coming from a confusion between "offer sheet" and "First Refusal Exercise Notice". The literal CBA tells us this for a restricted free agent's caphold: (ii) With respect to each Veteran Free Agent who last played for a Team who is a Restricted Free Agent, the greater of (A) the Free Agent Amount (as defined in Section 4(d) below) attributable to such Veteran Free Agent, (B) the Salary called for in any outstanding Qualifying Offer tendered to such Veteran Free Agent, or © the Salary called for in any First Refusal Exercise Notice (as defined in Article XI, Section 5(e)) issued with respect to such Veteran Free Agent That last part only occurs *if the team exercises this right* and not a second before. So when Parsons signs an offer sheet, A and B are events that can occur but C has yet to occur because we won't know of the Rockets will use this right. More legal mumbo-jumbo... An Offer Sheet shall be deemed given only when received by the ROFR Team. A First Refusal Exercise Notice shall be deemed given when sent by the ROFR Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted July 8, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 @hawksfanaticWhat you just did to this thread: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 HEY EVERYONE! I am here to ruin another thread. This is not true. Parson's caphold does not actually increase once he signs an offer sheet. This is likely coming from a confusion between "offer sheet" and "First Refusal Exercise Notice". The literal CBA tells us this for a restricted free agent's caphold: That last part only occurs *if the team exercises this right* and not a second before. So when Parsons signs an offer sheet, A and B are events that can occur but C has yet to occur because we won't know of the Rockets will use this right. More legal mumbo-jumbo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 HEY EVERYONE! I am here to ruin another thread. This is not true. Parson's caphold does not actually increase once he signs an offer sheet. This is likely coming from a confusion between "offer sheet" and "First Refusal Exercise Notice". The literal CBA tells us this for a restricted free agent's caphold: That last part only occurs *if the team exercises this right* and not a second before. So when Parsons signs an offer sheet, A and B are events that can occur but C has yet to occur because we won't know of the Rockets will use this right. More legal mumbo-jumbo... You did not ruin it. Rockets will have three days to match or say good bye to Parsons. When and if they match it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 8, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 My thinking is while Bosh is pondering, offer Parsons what we can. ~4 yrs 42 Million frontloaded. If they have offered Bosh max contract, if we can get Parsons to sign, Houston will not be able to resign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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