The Schröder Era Begins

[Peoriabird]

I’ve been a big Teague supporter but tonight is why its so frustrating to watch him. All the talent in the world but for some reason he has games where he looks so uninterested.  I really thought he had matured to the point where we didn’t have to worry about these type of performances. I can understand having a bad game but its absolutely no excuse to play with no type of effort or energy. He was just going through the motions. I’m happy coach benched him. I’m glad Dennis is playing well but its no way you trade Jeff and start Dennis after 4 or 5 good games. I remember when people wanted to trade Jeff last year and let Mack start after some good games.  I hope Jeff bounces back but we  shouldn’t be seeing these type of games at this point in his career.

No one notices when another Hawk player has these types of games.  Can't understand why Teague is always under the microscope on this message board!

Edited November 11, 2014 by Peoriabird

[Sarcatic1]

All players have bad games and if you look at my older post I have been a big Jeff supporter but its no excuse for not playing hard and tonight was one of those games where he looked like he didn’t care. And as a guy who defends him, its very disappointing.

[Sothron]

Bud played the hot hand, that is all.  Schröder is our backup, and Teague had a bad game.  Simple as that...  Don't get me wrong, I love seeing this out of Schro, but as said before, let's pump the brakes.  It's been two good games for Schro... We'll see how Schröder plays against an actual PG.  Both games he showed out were against the Knicks.  Playing well vs. Shane Larkin and Iman Shumpert is hardly something to get excited about.  I swear, Hawks' fans have short term memory loss and don't look past next week.  Let's not forget that Teague has been good for us so far before tonight.

Actually this is the fifth straight good game for Dennis.

[GrimeyKidd]

Can we please just have good pg depth. Instead of trading it all the damn time

[ViperXX79]

No one notices when other Hawks has these types of game.  Can't understand why Teague is always under the microscope on this message board!

He's the defacto-quarterback of the team.  When your QB is having an off night it tends to be a big deal and problem for your team.

[benhillboy]

Frazier-ism to describe Dennis: " Elusive and abusive."

[DS17Fanboy]

It seems I was on to something with my break-out game theory after San Antonio. All he needed was shaking the rust of for things to start clicking.

Edited November 11, 2014 by DS17Fanboy

[rd79]

I am really hyped now, but not to forget, if he would have been benched early in the 4th (like backups are normally) his statline would be: 4P on 1/5FG + 2/2FT, 3A, 4TO, 1S instead he got 14P on 4/8FG + 6/6FT, 4A, 4TO, 1S

 

so thx to Mr Teague for playing that bad and giving Dennis a chance to shine

[DS17Fanboy]

Indeed.

 

The crunchtime free-throws impressed me the most.

[willthepureshooter]

Smh.. Come on Benhillboy, you have good basketball sense. Let's not throw it out of the window bro.

[NBASupes]

Hopefully we can package JT0 for Greg Monroe and use Millsap for another trade to get us a SG with AS potential. I like Kyle but he's not effective when his shot isn't falling. We need someone we can groom for the future. As for a legit SF, there just aren't many out there. It's like the endangered species position right now in the NBA. 

[NBASupes]

I can't lie, Jeff has improved. His a legit starting PG and gives us at least 15 a night with solid D. Dennis can give us more is why Dennis is the future. With that said, we need more talent in general.

[Randy]

Dennis started out pretty shaky.  Bud deserves some credit for rolling the dice on Dennis in the 4th, but Jeff made it sort of easy for him to do it.  A little competition might be good for Jeff, and the good news is that if Jeff gets injured or goes into a slump Dennis is there.  As for who's best long term - too early to tell.  

 

(BTW - this is all in pretty stark contrast to the way Jeff was developed.  Remember he sat on the bench pretty much for 2 years and never made it into a game until injuries made it a necessity in the Chicago series.  Good for the coaching staff for letting the kid show what he can do.)

[Gray Mule]

One thing that really stands out about this game:

 

WE HAD A LOT OF FREE THROWS AND WE HIT THEM!!

 

You have heard me, over and over as I cry, "Hit those free throws."

Well, they did and what happened?  Hawks won!

 

Dennis the Maenace had a big hand in this as he hit them in crunch time.

He played like an all star last night.  Isn't it great to have more than one

very good point guard!

 

GO HAWKS!!

[benhillboy]

Smh.. Come on Benhillboy, you have good basketball sense. Let's not throw it out of the window bro.

I'm not a Teague detractor (nor fan) or see this is a start to his end or anything hasty. I just think it's a big deal for a backup PG to log more minutes than a veteran starter and finish the game over him, how often does that happen? It doesn't matter what we think, we all know Dennis is Ferry and Bud's guy while Jeff's future here was partially in the hands of the Bucks.

Jeff has earned his spot of course and is overall the better player right now, but Dennis' notable strengths of probing and defensive tenacity are more valuable than Jeff's main calling card of quickness off the dribble. I wouldn't read too much into assist totals for individuals in this offense. If Dennis is turning the ball over, he has excellent man D to fall back on to help the team. If Teague is having one of his poor focus games, he's no use on either end. The team is making strides defensively each time out which is more important to me since the offense is fully installed, not a coincidence with Dennis' extended minutes.

I didn't make some crazy Diesel proclamation. Just saying 6 years down the line when and if Dennis is still here as an All-Defense/ All-Star caliber PG, this game will be a landmark. Do you think he could sleep tonight with all the calls and texts he got from around the world about his performance in the Mecca?

Edited November 11, 2014 by benhillboy

[HawkItus]

The thing about Dennis is the defense and the pace.   Jeff is a liability on defense and even though he is quick he plays slow as hell.  Dennis is a badger on defense, fighting through screens and disrupting passing lanes.  On offense he brings a flare and energy that seems to make the team play faster.  

[NBASupes]

The thing about Dennis is the defense and the pace.   Jeff is a liability on defense and even though he is quick he plays slow as hell.  Dennis is a badger on defense, fighting through screens and disrupting passing lanes.  On offense he brings a flare and energy that seems to make the team play faster.  

Jeff is NOT a liability on either end of the floor but at times he can struggle. Especially defending the PnR and fighting through screens.

[macdaddy]

Dennis started out pretty shaky.  Bud deserves some credit for rolling the dice on Dennis in the 4th, but Jeff made it sort of easy for him to do it.  A little competition might be good for Jeff, and the good news is that if Jeff gets injured or goes into a slump Dennis is there.  As for who's best long term - too early to tell.  

 

(BTW - this is all in pretty stark contrast to the way Jeff was developed.  Remember he sat on the bench pretty much for 2 years and never made it into a game until injuries made it a necessity in the Chicago series.  Good for the coaching staff for letting the kid show what he can do.)

 

I agree.  The competition will be a great thing and if that doesn't motivate one of them then you probably don't want that guy in pressure situations anyway.   

[ATLSmith]

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.  Schröder was having a good game so Bud kept him in.  This is how you develop players.  Give them the play time they've earned and build their confidence.

 

By the way, I love how Dennish keeps his cool.  Even when Shumpert was barking in his ear he just calmly walked down the court and didn't say a word.  That probably pissed Shumpert off more than if Dennis had reacted.

Edited November 11, 2014 by ATLSmith

[macdaddy]

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.  Schröder was having a good game so Bud kept him in.  This is how you develop players.  Give them the play time they've earned and build their confidence.

 

By the way, I love how Dennish keeps his cool.  Even when Shumpert was barking in his ear he just calmly walked down the court and didn't say a word.  That probably pissed Shumpert off more than if Dennis had reacted.

 

missed the game.  wish i could find a video of that.