2017 Dynasty Draft - Pick Selection and Discussion Thread

[AHF]

 

Here are the rules:

1.  Draft Format: This is a fourteen round snake draft, so Draft order goes 1,2,3,4,...14, 15, 16, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11,...3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3,..

2. Eligibility: You can Draft anybody that is currently in the league or is or has been draft eligible. So players eligible for the 2017 draft can be drafted as can foreign players drafted in the past or draft eligible in the past who haven't played in the NBA. Players like incoming college freshmen are still not eligible for this draft because they have never been draft eligible and will not be eligible until next year's draft.  As a clarification, you can pick pretty much anyone to coach.

 3. Making Your Picks/Discussion and Debate: When it's your turn to draft, you just post (in bold) the player's name and you should do a writeup on why you chose that player. If you don't have time for a writeup, you can just make your selection to keep Draft moving and then post writeup later when you have time. Your writeup should explain why the player rules and how well they fit with your squad and why your team is now going to dominate the '10s. You should always pm the next person in the list after you pick.
Example:
AHF Team Pick: Shaquille O’Neal
I am taking Shaq to bolster my rebounding and interior defense. While he is getting older, he will be playing limited minutes on my roster behind Dwight Howard [note: already picked by me so can be discussed] and will still be able to dominate smaller guys playing center like Al Horford [note: already selected so can be named] in the paint. Health is a concern but in round 11 there isn’t a lot of depth on the interior so this pick makes all the sense in the world.  Next person on the list has been PM'd

Discussion of picks is encouraged but do not discuss undrafted players to avoid influencing future picks. So, for example, if Wilt is picked #1 then it is a breach of draft etiquette to start discussion other available centers or how MJ is still available, etc. If you are explaining why you picked Wilt, you need to just generally address other available players or use the word "Player" as a substitute for someone specific.

 Example: AHF Team Selects:  Dominique Wilkins. I took Nique because he was so dominant in the playoffs, and I don't think that Player would hold up as well as him when guarded by other elite picks. Next person on the list has been PM'd.  (Note:  Nique would not be a good choice at all as explained below).

 We will keep a separate thread with a summary of all picks for easy reference.

 4. Time Frame/Finances: You get the player as they are and their projected potential/output for their projected career from here on out. So if you Draft Elton Brand, you are getting the 2017-18 Elton Brand who has a very limited number of years left. If you Draft someone from this years draft you might get a young player who may project to play for 10+ years at a high level. Assume for purposes of this draft that all players get paid 1/13th of your salary cap every year so that you don’t need to bypass Michael Conley for Emmanual Mudiay just because Conley is expensive and you already have several high salaries.  This applies equally to coaches.  

5. Roster: Each team gets 13 players and 1 coach, no restrictions on positions...draft 13 centers if you want; only 1 coach and that coach must be currently employed as a coach in the league (head, assistant or otherwise).

6. Evaluation Criteria: Draft as if you are starting a new franchise, so consider how your team will play into the future, not just year one. That said, you can choose to weight immediate success or long-term success as you wish.

7. Trades: Teams are free to trade players, coaches or picks but the total number of incoming and outgoing roster spots must be the same. I.e., you can trade your first round pick and fifth round pick for someone’s second and third round picks but can’t trade your first round pick for a second round pick and a tenth round pick. Trades are subject to review but will only be overturned where both a number of posters and the commish (AHF) feel the trade is so unfair that it could ruin balance. Basically, we want to avoid stacking one team up with lopsided trades but trades for fit or due to different projections of talent are fine.

8. Time Limits: We'll start off with an 8 hour time limit for each pick (see note on nighttime shutdown). So when the person before you picks, you have 8 hours from then to make your selection or you are skipped. If you are skipped, the next person's clock starts and they have 8 hours. You may make up skipped picks at any time. Just post who you want when you get back to the thread. We may decrease time limit if the draft drags to a crawl and people aren’t expected to take that long if they are available. Draft moving smoothly, but we'll decide that as a group.
One Caveat: The clock does not run from 10pm-7am EST. So if team 5 makes a selection at 9pm then team 6 has until 2pm the next day (1 hour until 10pm then 7 hours after 7am.)

Second Caveat:  If you miss your pick and make everyone wait 8 hours, if you haven't made that next pick you will only have 2 hours for your next pick.  Once you are current on your picks, you will get a full 8 hours again.

9. PM The Next Pick: You should PM the person after you when you make your pick so they know it's their turn. However, everyone should also follow along with the thread and know when they are up soon. Please make sure you have set your preferences to receive emails when you are PM’d.

10. Anticipated Absences – Advance Picks: If your pick is coming up soon and you'll be away, just ask in thread who will take your pm and be around to post it when it's your turn. I like to pm someone picking after me, and ideally someone that I have 2 picks before they go again so I can pm them 2 choices in case my top choice gets selected.

Pick #	Team	Player Selected
1	PSSSHHHRRR87 (for jy23)	Andre Drummond
2	pimp	Kevin Durant
3	Buzzard	Karl-Anthony Towns
4	lethalweapon3	Stephen Curry
5	LucastheThird	LeBron James
6	Diesel	Russell Westbrook
7	capstone21	Giannis Antetokounmpo
8	AHF	Kawhi Leonard
9	HopefulHawksFan	Jimmy Butler
10	HopefulHawksFan	Kyrie Irving
11	AHF	James Harden
12	capstone21	Anthony Davis
13	Diesel	Paul George
14	LucastheThird	John Wall
15	lethalweapon3	Nikola Jokic
16	Buzzard	Gordon Hayward
17	pimp	DeMarcus Cousins
18	PSSSHHHRRR87 (for jy23)	Carmelo Anthony
19	PSSSHHHRRR87 (for jy23)	DeMar DeRozan
20	pimp	Damian Lillard
21	Buzzard	Klay Thompson
22	lethalweapon3	Draymond Green
23	LucastheThird	Paul Millsap
24	Diesel	Kristaps Porzingis
25	capstone21	Devin Booker
26	AHF	Joel Embiid
27	HopefulHawksFan	Kevin Love
28	HopefulHawksFan	Steven Adams
29	AHF	Chris Paul
30	capstone21	Rudy Gobert
31	Diesel	DeAndre Jordan
32	LucastheThird	Bradley Beal
33	lethalweapon3	Khris Middleton
34	Buzzard	Kemba Walker
35	pimp	Isaiah Thomas
36	PSSSHHHRRR87	Mike Conley
37	PSSSHHHRRR87	LaMarcus Aldridge
38	pimp	C.J. McCollum
39	Buzzard	Hassan Whiteside
40	lethalweapon3	Ben Simmons
41	LucastheThird	Al Horford
42	Diesel	Lou Williams
43	capstone21	Kyle Lowry
44	AHF	Blake Griffin
45	HopefulHawksFan	Otto Porter
46	HopefulHawksFan	Marc Gasol
47	AHF	Myles Turner
48	capstone21	Nicolas Batum
49	Diesel	Eric Bledsoe
50	LucastheThird	Dwight Howard
51	lethalweapon3	Lonzo Ball
52	Buzzard	Serge Ibaka
53	pimp	Andrew Wiggins
54	PSSSHHHRRR87	George Hill
55	PSSSHHHRRR87	Tobias Harris
56	pimp	Nerlens Noel
57	Buzzard	Dennis Schröder
58	lethalweapon3	Dario Saric
59	LucastheThird	Jabari Parker
60	Diesel	Julius Randle
61	capstone21	Jrue Holiday
62	AHF	Markelle Fultz
63	HopefulHawksFan	John Collins
64	HopefulHawksFan	Goran Dragic
65	AHF	Clint Capela
66	capstone21	Marquese Chriss
67	Diesel	Jeff Teague
68	LucastheThird	Eric Gordon
69	lethalweapon3	Nikola Vucevic
70	Buzzard	Harrison Barnes
71	pimp	Jusuf Nurkic
72	PSSSHHHRRR87	Victor Oladipo
73	PSSSHHHRRR87	Aaron Gordon
74	pimp	Gorgui Dieng
75	Buzzard	Avery Bradley
76	lethalweapon3	Gary Harris
77	LucastheThird	Danilo Gallinari
78	Diesel	Brook Lopez
79	capstone21	Jae Crowder
80	AHF	COACH Gregg Popovich
81	HopefulHawksFan	Kyle Korver
82	HopefulHawksFan	COACH Erik Spoelstra
83	AHF	Josh Jackson
84	capstone21	COACH Brad Stevens
85	Diesel	COACH Rick Carlisle
86	LucastheThird	Patrick Beverley
87	lethalweapon3	COACH Jason Kidd
88	Buzzard	J.J. Redick
89	pimp	Zach LaVine
90	PSSSHHHRRR87	Malcolm Brogdon
91	PSSSHHHRRR87	COACH Dave Joerger
92	pimp	Dennis Smith, Jr.
93	Buzzard	Derrick Favors
94	lethalweapon3	Bogdan Bogdanovic
95	LucastheThird	COACH Mike Budenholzer
96	Diesel	Brandon Ingram
97	capstone21	Tristan Thompson
98	AHF	Jayson Tatum
99	HopefulHawksFan	Taurean Prince
100	HopefulHawksFan	Tyler Ulis
101	AHF	Ricky Rubio
102	capstone21	D'Angelo Russell
103	Diesel	Seth Curry
104	LucastheThird	Dewayne Dedmon
105	lethalweapon3	Robert Covington
106	Buzzard	Reggie Jackson
107	pimp	Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
108	PSSSHHHRRR87	Robin Lopez
109	PSSSHHHRRR87	Wesley Matthews
110	pimp	COACH Steve Kerr
111	Buzzard	Jonathan Isaac
112	lethalweapon3	Markieff Morris
113	LucastheThird	Thaddeus Young
114	Diesel	JaMychal Green
115	capstone21	Dirk Nowitzki
116	AHF	Tim Hardaway, Jr.
117	HopefulHawksFan	Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
118	HopefulHawksFan	Pau Gasol
119	AHF	Greg Monroe
120	capstone21	Jamal Murray
121	Diesel	Jeremy Lin
122	LucastheThird	Buddy Hield
123	lethalweapon3	Cody Zeller
124	Buzzard	COACH Stan Van Gundy
125	pimp	Jaylen Brown
126	PSSSHHHRRR87	Alan Williams

[AHF]

@jy23 - The podium is yours.

[lethalweapon3]

Heads-up to @pimp that if @jy23 doesn't pick by 8:16 AM Eastern tomorrow morning, you will get to go ahead with your selection! If the pimpster chimes in beforehand, of course, you'll be good to go, too!

~lw3

[pimp]

With the 2nd pick in the 2017 Hawksquawk draft.  The ATL Air Force selects.
Kevin Durant
 25.1 pts - 8.3 rebs 4.8 asts

Most people would likely take a younger player at this spot, but I think Kevin has at least 7 more years as a #1 option.
Durant gives my team a chance to compete for a championship now , and in the future.
He gives my team an elite go to guy, that showed in the NBA Finals that he is one of the best players of his generation.
He had one of the greatest NBA  Finals ever - 35.2 PPG - 8.0 RPG - 5.4 APG MVP
We hope he can take our team to the Finals , and finally bring a championship home to Atlanta.
 @Buzzard
 

Edited August 2, 2017 by pimp

[AHF]

12 hours ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Heads-up to @pimp that if @jy23 doesn't pick by 8:16 AM Eastern tomorrow morning, you will get to go ahead with your selection! If the pimpster chimes in beforehand, of course, you'll be good to go, too!

~lw3

I told jy23 both in the other thread and in pm that his time on the clock would start this morning so I've hidden @pimp's post.

@jy23 is halfway through his time.  @pimp is good to go as of 3 pm EST.  Hopefully before then!

[Buzzard]

What am I missing here? I am told I am up but I see no picks have been made.

[lethalweapon3]

8 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

What am I missing here? I am told I am up but I see no picks have been made.

Sorry, Buzz, I jumped the gun! We have to wait until probably after 3 PM, when jy23's time expires and pimp's pick either takes hold (AHF hid it pending jy23's time) or he selects somebody else (if jy takes his player). Either way, stay tuned!

~lw3

[capstone21]

9 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

What am I missing here? I am told I am up but I see no picks have been made.

There was a misunderstanding and it was thought JY23's time had elapsed which was not the case ... pimp made his pick and messeaged you ... JY23 still has until 3 to make a pick ... after that if pimps pick is not taken then you are then able to pick

[Buzzard]

Just now, lethalweapon3 said:

Sorry, Buzz, I jumped the gun! We have to wait until probably after 3 PM, when jy23's time expires and pimp's pick either takes hold (AHF hid it pending jy23's time) or he selects somebody else (if jy takes his player). Either way, stay tuned!

~lw3

I could not find any picks having been made and thought I was going nuts lol.

[capstone21]

Just now, Buzzard said:

I could not find any picks having been made and thought I was going nuts lol.

Well one is not related to the other :p

[AHF]

36 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

What am I missing here? I am told I am up but I see no picks have been made.

Confusion with @jy23who is on the clock for another hour.  At 3 pm EST his time will have run and @pimphas his pick in that I can unhide and then let you pick at that point.

[lethalweapon3]

Alrighty, now that @jy23's time expiration is official-official, I think it's safe for @pimp's pick to be revealed, and then for @Buzzard to be green-lighted. But let's hold out until @AHF makes it clear we can proceed.

~lw3

[Buzzard]

2 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Alrighty, now that @jy23's time expiration is official-official, I think it's safe for @pimp's pick to be revealed, and then for @Buzzard to be green-lighted. But let's hold out until @AHF makes it clear we can proceed.

~lw3

I am ready when ever. At work right now so it is hit and miss as to when; but I can get my pick in sometime today so long as it is my turn

Edited August 2, 2017 by Buzzard

[pimp]

1 hour ago, Buzzard said:

I am ready when ever. At work right now so it is hit and miss as to when; but I can get my pick in sometime today so long as it is my turn

I made my pick  this morning so, i guess i'm waiting for AHF to bring my post back , because i have no idea what i wrote 
at 8:30 , 

Edited August 2, 2017 by pimp

[Buzzard]

14 minutes ago, pimp said:

I made my pick  this morning so, i guess i'm waiting for AHF to bring my post back , because i have no idea what i wrote 
at 8:30 , 

It is definitely your turn and since you are claiming my man Durant, I will shock the world and get my pick in toot sweet!

[lethalweapon3]

15 minutes ago, pimp said:

I made my pick  this morning so, i guess i'm waiting for AHF to bring my post back , because i have no idea what i wrote 
at 8:30 , 

No worries! To avoid a total Clustersquawk (i.e., so pimp and/or jy23 didn't jump in and pick the same guy as you), I recently leaked the name of your (excellent) pick from this morning to the pimpster. Hopefully, I didn't violate our well-established anti-Collusion rules!

~lw3

[AHF]

8 hours ago, pimp said:

With the 2nd pick in the 2017 Hawksquawk draft.  The ATL Air Force selects.
Kevin Durant
 25.1 pts - 8.3 rebs 4.8 asts

Most people would likely take a younger player at this spot, but I think Kevin has at least 7 more years as a #1 option.
Durant gives my team a chance to compete for a championship now , and in the future.
He gives my team an elite go to guy, that showed in the NBA Finals that he is one of the best players of his generation.
He had one of the greatest NBA  Finals ever - 35.2 PPG - 8.0 RPG - 5.4 APG MVP
We hope he can take our team to the Finals , and finally bring a championship home to Atlanta.
 @Buzzard
 

Unhidden for the world to enjoy!  Fare thee well sweet KD.  You made a fantastic opening pick for my roster last year.

[lethalweapon3]

"Shhh, the Commish is back, everybody look busy!"

~lw3

[capstone21]

There are prob 4 or 5 guys that could go first ... KD is def one of them

[Buzzard]

With the 3^rd pick in the Squawk Dynasty Draft, the Flocking Buzzards select Karl -“The Man” - Anthony Towns.

This young center from the University of Kentucky really upped his game in his 2^nd season. His scoring average jumped almost 7 points a game putting him in the 12^th spot and tied with the all world small forward just taken ahead of him. He also improved his range with these stats bearing this out:  increased 3pt attempts per game, increased 3pt %, and increased ft attempts per game, and increased ft%.

Every offensive category improved. Karl’s rebounding also put him squarely in the top 10 in the league as one of only 6 players to average 12 or more rebounds per game.

We do not see a weakness in this young man’s game and at just 21 years old; we expect him to be a pillar we can base our franchise on for the next decade. Welcome to the Flock Young Mr. Towns

 

@lethalweapon3is up!

Edited August 2, 2017 by Buzzard