Can Bud coach top talent?

[Vol4ever]

In observance of the Bud Hawk teams he does more with less.  In 5 years if/When the Hawks get some top talent in the fold, can he exploit their talents?   Can he let them use their talent or will it be 3 and done on offense?   

[nathan2331]

Valid question. I'm going to go with yes, because he'll be responsible for whatever draft pick we get becoming superstar. All of the top guys have sky high potential, but they have flaws in their game as well that will need to be fixed.

[benhillboy]

I’m biased towards Bud but even being objective I’d say yes easily.  I projected Dedmon would be a slick jump shooter so take my word, it’s all I got. 

He has this summer’s 19th pick playing at the 29th best level of “efficiency” in the whole league.  He’s helped at least a dozen players make AS potential, starter, or decent reserve status when they couldn’t have dreamed of such.  A top level talent would be well on his way to HOF status with 5 years under Bud and Co.

[benhillboy]

Damn edit time limit.

Even as a Bud fan I acknowledge he does some questionable shit and his candor with the media is weak but he, Pop, Stevens, Spo, and Quinn are the top level guys IMO all things considered.  I’m a Carlisle and Kidd guy but they been shaky lately to me.  I gotta see Kerr with an average talent base.  When allowed to focus on coaching full time, it’s clear Bud busts his ass.  Far be it from me to criticize a dude with his level of education and credentials.  I’m Christmas Eve Drunk so excuse me if I’m in my feelings about Bud.

Edited December 24, 2017 by benhillboy

[benhillboy]

We just score so many points in the paint for a tanking team and it’s awesome coaching.  Alright I’m done, merry Christmas y’all.

[turnermx]

Merry Christmas !

[High5]

No reason to think he can't. He takes it slow with rookies, but otherwise he's better than nearly anyone at maximizing talent. Even when we're tanking he has people impressed with the roster. 

[Vol4ever]

I like Bud.  I like defense and rebounding.

[Peoriabird]

9 minutes ago, Vol4ever said:

I like defense and rebounding.

I hear you brother...Our coach kinda struggles with those 2 aspects of basketball.

[TheFuzz]

15 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

I hear you brother...Our coach kinda struggles with those 2 aspects of basketball.

Except when we had a top 5 defense 3 years straight, but cool.

[Diesel]

I think it doesn't matter.   He won' t be here.  Part of coaching is having a GM who understands your needs as a coach.   I don't think that's Schlenk.   Bud won't make it passed this contract.   However, can he... Yes.   He's a players coach and therefore Big name players will buy in to what he sells.   You don't get Coach of the Year because you win games.   Ask Sloan about that.   You get coach of the year because you get buy in and elevate talent. 

[Peoriabird]

One magical season turned Bud into an Atlanta legend

[nathan2331]

One magical season turned Bud into an Atlanta legend

It was the best season in our sad history, so I'd say he deserves the respect.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

6 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

One magical season turned Bud into an Atlanta legend

 

[JTB]

On 12/25/2017 at 1:42 PM, Diesel said:

I think it doesn't matter.   He won' t be here.  Part of coaching is having a GM who understands your needs as a coach.   I don't think that's Schlenk.   Bud won't make it passed this contract.   However, can he... Yes.   He's a players coach and therefore Big name players will buy in to what he sells.   You don't get Coach of the Year because you win games.   Ask Sloan about that.   You get coach of the year because you get buy in and elevate talent. 

Oh that’s right bud is going to get fired....Because Schlenk rather have a GS guy because he’s from GS ...silliest shit I’ve ever heard.

im going to say this one last time in effort to kill silly ass post like this!

bud is considered a top coach league wide that’s not an opinion that’s a fact. Bud gets praised in the nba by many and Schlenk knows he has a top guy in his corner . Also Schlenk was apart bringing in Kerr someone who happens to be from the pop tree therefore I’m certain there’s many similarities to bud and Kerr that Schlenk noticed. Schlenk knows ball and player movement is key coming from GS and outside of pop there’s no better teacher than bud at running that scheme and developing players to run that scheme.

im confident Schlenk and Ressler are looking to extend buds contract if anything. Schlenk is not replacing bud .

[TheNorthCydeRises]

So my question is this:

Why isn't John Collins starting . . nor finishing games?

We have a deficiency at rebounding and defense . . . but one of the best rebounders and rim protectors on the team isn't on the floor during crunch time?

I know people don't want the Hawks to win more than 20 games this season, but should that come at the expense of Collins not receiving his rightful spot in the starting lineup?  At least let him close out games, if you're not going to start him.

 

[Peoriabird]

9 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

So my question is this:

Why isn't John Collins starting . . nor finishing games?

We have a deficiency at rebounding and defense . . . but one of the best rebounders and rim protectors on the team isn't on the floor during crunch time?

I know people don't want the Hawks to win more than 20 games this season, but should that come at the expense of Collins not receiving his rightful spot in the starting lineup?  At least let him close out games, if you're not going to start him.

 

Careful now...You are about to rile up my base!

[Diesel]

8 hours ago, JTB said:

Oh that’s right bud is going to get fired....Because Schlenk rather have a GS guy because he’s from GS ...silliest shit I’ve ever heard.

im going to say this one last time in effort to kill silly ass post like this!

bud is considered a top coach league wide that’s not an opinion that’s a fact. Bud gets praised in the nba by many and Schlenk knows he has a top guy in his corner . Also Schlenk was apart bringing in Kerr someone who happens to be from the pop tree therefore I’m certain there’s many similarities to bud and Kerr that Schlenk noticed. Schlenk knows ball and player movement is key coming from GS and outside of pop there’s no better teacher than bud at running that scheme and developing players to run that scheme.

im confident Schlenk and Ressler are looking to extend buds contract if anything. Schlenk is not replacing bud .

Come on JTB.. How many GMs make it their business to fire the sitting coach to bring in one of their guys?

How the hell do you think Bud got the job in the first place??

Ferry took over and let Larry Drew go.  Drew had a damn good year.  Got us to the second round of the playoffs after beating Orlando.  Ferry knew that he was rebuilding the roster when Drew was given the third year.  He let Drew finish out his third year and then brought in his boy.   

The same thing is happening to Bud.  He's going to finish out his contract and Schlenk is going to bring in somebody who he can win with.

Ask yourself. 

If you were hired as CEO of a company.... would you keep the last top executive guy or would you bring in somebody who you know and work well with?  I know you're not fool enough to trust your job on somebody who you don't know and who doesn't line up with your business plan??