Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted May 23, 2022 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Agree or Disagree? Untouchable Trae Young (five years, $176.9 million remaining — can be over $211 million if he’s named to an All-NBA team in the coming days) The hope is Young remains a Hawk for the entirety of his career. Atlanta was all-in on building around Young from the moment it traded for him on draft night in 2018. He has since developed into one of the league’s best players and should be named to his first All-NBA team, which would enact the supermax clause of his contract. Splashy trade pieces John Collins (four years, $102 million remaining, includes player option for 2025-26) As the cap rises each year, Collins’ contract will look even more reasonable than it does now. In the first season of his five-year, $125 million deal, Collins was the 45th-highest paid player in the league. He’ll continue dropping throughout the length of his contract as more players get new deals each free agency. De’Andre Hunter (one year, $9.84 million remaining) Hunter would have to be a part of a package in order for the Hawks to get something significant in return because he’s on his rookie contract. Trading him outside of a deal that nets a valuable player (or players) in return wouldn’t make sense, because the Hawks could just simply let him play out his contract and reevaluate where he is next offseason. This year’s first-round pick, Hawks’ future firsts and Charlotte’s 2023 first-round pick (top-16 protected 2023, top-14 protected 2024 and 2025; if it hasn’t conveyed by 2025, then Hawks will get 2026, 2027 second-round picks) Onyeka Okongwu (two years, $14.5 million remaining, includes team option for 2023-24) An argument can be made that outside of Young, Okongwu is the second-likeliest player to not be traded this offseason. The Hawks see him as the center of the future, and we haven’t seen that should make them believe otherwise. It would be a surprise if Atlanta moves Okongwu, but he’s not good enough yet to keep if the Hawks could get a top talent in return. Sneaky value Danilo Gallinari (one year, $21.45 million remaining, only $5 million guaranteed) Let’s say the Hawks do make a trade with the Utah Jazz for someone like Rudy Gobert. It’s possible Utah could ask for Capela or Gallinari in the deal to help match salaries. Kevin Huerter (four years, $65 million remaining) Huerter has a poison-pill restriction (so does Young) that doesn’t go away until July 1. That means if he were to be traded before July 1, his outgoing salary for the Hawks would be $4.25 million, and his incoming salary for a different team would be $13.85 million The “good when healthy” tier Clint Capela (three years, $65.59 million remaining, $61.09 million guaranteed) It took Capela more than half of the season to look comfortable on the floor after battling Achilles soreness that originated at the start of the 2020-21 season. Even when he overcame the soreness, he still looked as if he had lost a step, as evidenced with the amount of quality looks he missed at the rim. Bogdan Bogdanović (two years, $36 million remaining, includes player option for 2023-2024) When he’s fully healthy and locked-in from 3, Bogdanović has played like the second-best player on the Hawks. What’s concerning, though, is how much he battled injuries from the beginning of the season up until the final game against the Miami Heat. His knee continuously bothered him, even after he underwent a procedure in the offseason to address his lingering soreness. Trade sweeteners Jalen Johnson (three years, $10.23 million remaining, includes team options for 2023-24, 2024-25) It might’ve been a bit unrealistic to have hoped Johnson would be in a different tier after his rookie season. The Hawks were public from the moment they drafted him about how his path to cracking the rotation immediately was going to be daunting because of the depth ahead of him. But even with multiple injuries and a COVID-19 outbreak on the roster, Johnson was never able to find a role. He finished with just 120 minutes played — or put another way, just 2.5 full NBA games.All second-round picks Finding second-round talent is an underrated way to build out any roster in the league, and the Hawks haven’t been successful at finding rotation players. The last player who made any sort of impact for the Hawks out of the second round was Mike Scott in 2012 https://theathletic.com/3327229/2022/05/23/rankings-hawks-trade-tiers/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 58 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Bogdan Bogdanović (two years, $36 million remaining, includes player option for 2023-2024) I’m so back n forth on Bogi but during the exit interviews he vowed to come back and have an awesome year. Call me crazy but I believe him. Then I just saw this… I don’t want to trade him he’s gonna go off next year. He’s resting the knees. Despite the wrong pic below let’s keep our guy. @kg01 I guess all Bogi’s look alike huh.. Bogdan Bogdanovic to miss Eurobasket? Atlanta Hawks and Serbia NT star Bogdan Bogdanovic has been suffering from knee pain for months now and his participation in the 2022 EuroBasket in September is unlikely, according to reports by mozzartsport.com. Bogdanovic, 29, has faced these issues for quite a while now, but still managed to play through pain with the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the playoffs this past April vs. the Miami Heat. 7 mins ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 23, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: I’m so back n forth on Bogi but during the exit interviews he vowed to come back and have an awesome year. Call me crazy but I believe him. Then I just saw this… I don’t want to trade him he’s gonna go off next year. He’s resting the knees. Despite the wrong pic below let’s keep our guy. @kg01 I guess all Bogi’s look alike huh.. Bogdan Bogdanovic to miss Eurobasket? Atlanta Hawks and Serbia NT star Bogdan Bogdanovic has been suffering from knee pain for months now and his participation in the 2022 EuroBasket in September is unlikely, according to reports by mozzartsport.com. Bogdanovic, 29, has faced these issues for quite a while now, but still managed to play through pain with the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the playoffs this past April vs. the Miami Heat. 7 mins ago Bogi's minutes will need to be carefully managed going forward. He needs to take care of that knee this offseason. May now be an issue in any trade that and his 15% trade kicker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: I’m so back n forth on Bogi but during the exit interviews he vowed to come back and have an awesome year. Call me crazy but I believe him. Then I just saw this… I don’t want to trade him he’s gonna go off next year. He’s resting the knees. Despite the wrong pic below let’s keep our guy. @kg01 I guess all Bogi’s look alike huh.. Bogdan Bogdanovic to miss Eurobasket? Atlanta Hawks and Serbia NT star Bogdan Bogdanovic has been suffering from knee pain for months now and his participation in the 2022 EuroBasket in September is unlikely, according to reports by mozzartsport.com. Bogdanovic, 29, has faced these issues for quite a while now, but still managed to play through pain with the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the playoffs this past April vs. the Miami Heat. 7 mins ago I still heart Bogd. It's too bad, due to the knee, we didn't get what we want out of him. I'm sadly thinking, due to the knee, we may need to trade him. If we do, it'll break my heart as much as yours was broken when @marco102 professed his undying love for the Warriors. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 23, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 With rumors of Fournier isn't Bogi much better off the bench than Evan? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 23, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, macdaddy said: With rumors of Fournier isn't Bogi much better off the bench than Evan? Player comps from this past season: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bogdabo01&p1yrfrom=2022&player_id2=fournev01&p2yrfrom=2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Player comps from this past season: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bogdabo01&p1yrfrom=2022&player_id2=fournev01&p2yrfrom=2022 Whoa. Evan shoots only 70% from the stripe? Gramps ain’t gonna like that. Ughhhh, Bogi just has a ton of passion. Wish he was healthy more often. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, macdaddy said: With rumors of Fournier isn't Bogi much better off the bench than Evan? That one really turned my tummy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, kg01 said: That one really turned my tummy. It wasn’t the corn beef last night? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 23, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, kg01 said: That one really turned my tummy. Aawww...your lickle tummy wummy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, kg01 said: That one really turned my tummy. Kg I usually don’t do this… specially on a Monday.. but COME HERE YOUUUU!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 23, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Player comps from this past season: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bogdabo01&p1yrfrom=2022&player_id2=fournev01&p2yrfrom=2022 The most shocking thing here to me is that Fournier started 80 games last season. Wow! But looks like he's basically shooting all 3s now. He's attempting half as many 2s as during his 'prime' orlando years. These guys are the same age too which i didn't realize. I still think Bogi is a better scorer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 " Hubie, whats your thoughts on this young Hawks team?" " One of the hardest things to do with a young team is to get every player to buy into a team concept. I wasn't afraid to trade anybody who thought otherwise." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Good list. I would swap Cap and Gallo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted May 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 I prefer Bogi to Fournier as a player, but the best ability as a player is availability. Fournier won that category last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 23, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, BangHolman said: I prefer Bogi to Fournier as a player, but the best ability as a player is availability. Fournier won that category last season. Tough because it is the only category he won and he isn't real consistent in that area himself: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted May 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Spud2nique said: I’m so back n forth on Bogi but during the exit interviews he vowed to come back and have an awesome year. Call me crazy but I believe him. Then I just saw this… I don’t want to trade him he’s gonna go off next year. He’s resting the knees. Despite the wrong pic below let’s keep our guy. @kg01 I guess all Bogi’s look alike huh.. Bogdan Bogdanovic to miss Eurobasket? Atlanta Hawks and Serbia NT star Bogdan Bogdanovic has been suffering from knee pain for months now and his participation in the 2022 EuroBasket in September is unlikely, according to reports by mozzartsport.com. Bogdanovic, 29, has faced these issues for quite a while now, but still managed to play through pain with the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the playoffs this past April vs. the Miami Heat. 7 mins ago My question about this.. Isn't there some type of clause in the NBA players' contract that would prevent them from playing in another league? If Bogi were to get hurt playing in EuroBasket... That effects the Hawks. (for instance). i.e. I'm talking aside from the Olympics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Hawkmoor said: " Hubie, whats your thoughts on this young Hawks team?" " One of the hardest things to do with a young team is to get every player to buy into a team concept. I wasn't afraid to trade anybody who thought otherwise." And you want Kyrie? Isn’t that the opposite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Diesel said: My question about this.. Isn't there some type of clause in the NBA players' contract that would prevent them from playing in another league? If Bogi were to get hurt playing in EuroBasket... That effects the Hawks. (for instance). i.e. I'm talking aside from the Olympics. Ya I don’t know the details on that. Personally, I don’t want my guys playing ball all year. Too much wear and tear to play in the summer then another 82 games and playoffs. It’ll break you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted May 23, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Eurobasket is not another pro league. It is international men's competition. Bogi is on his national team. If he doesn't play it means he is concerned about his knee long term. Personally I hope he doesn't play in it but you can't tell a guy not to play for his country. America is the only country that doesn't really take part in several international competitions like Eurobasket for basketball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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