The Official NBASupes, Sothron, and theCampster Insider Thread - NBA 2022-23 Season

[Diesel]

15 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Can I ask what exactly Kyrie brings to the table that Dinwiddie doesn’t? (And this is not coming from a Dinwiddie fan)

Rk	Player	Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Spencer Dinwiddie	2022-23	29	53	53	34.1	6.0	13.1	.455	2.6	6.4	.405	3.4	6.7	.504	.555	3.2	3.9	.821	0.4	2.7	3.1	5.3	0.7	0.3	1.7	2.3	17.7
2	Kyrie Irving	2022-23	30	40	40	37.0	10.0	20.5	.486	3.3	8.7	.374	6.7	11.8	.569	.565	4.0	4.5	.883	1.0	4.2	5.1	5.3	1.0	0.8	2.3	2.7	27.1

[NBASupes]

17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Is he really though?

Ben Simmons has missed the last four games with left knee soreness, but sources familiar with Durant’s thinking tell the Daily News the star forward has been less than enthralled with Simmons, who is averaging just 7.9 points, 6.6 rebounds and six assists per game on a max contract in Brooklyn.

 

– via Kristian Winfield @ New York Daily News

Regardless if he is or isn't. Simmons is going wherever KD goes due to the rookie max deal where you can only have one. A return to GS makes a lot of sense honestly. 

 

Edited February 5, 2023 by NBASupes

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I think what happened was Lebron told Kyrie to ask for a trade and LAL offered Westbrook and 2 1sts...  To punish them, BKN made the deal with Dallas. 

 

Haha, savagery.  I love it.  KY and Bron-Bron on the tele after the DAL deal like, 'Whappened?' 

[Diesel]

I wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn tries to push a Simmons for JC deal. 

New FO needs to learn this now...

[kg01]

2 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn tries to push a Simmons for JC deal. 

New FO needs to learn this now...

No worries, Dies-o.  Nba twitterers are convinced the mavs ain't done yet.  That smooth THJr for Collins swap works for both teams .... right?

[Diesel]

6 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Haha, savagery.  I love it.  KY and Bron-Bron on the tele after the DAL deal like, 'Whappened?' 

This is the funny part....  Listen to the interview.   I think Lebron thought the deal was in the Bag.

 

[Diesel]

1 minute ago, kg01 said:

No worries, Dies-o.  Nba twitterers are convinced the mavs ain't done yet.  That smooth THJr for Collins swap works for both teams .... right?

Here's my FEAR...

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

This is the funny part....  Listen to the interview.   I think Lebron thought the deal was in the Bag.

 

Heh.  Duh? 

[Diesel]

Just now, kg01 said:

Heh.  Duh? 

"I don't speak for the Lakers Front Office.  I don't know what they are going to do..."  But when you hear that kind of question being asked.. if Kyrie can help this team make it to the finish line... "DUH" is what comes to mind.

Well, Duh...  Unless you can make a deal that Dallas can't refuse... too bad, so sad Lebron... enjoy your play in defeat.

 

 

[Watchman]

39 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Can I ask what exactly Kyrie brings to the table that Dinwiddie doesn’t? (And this is not coming from a Dinwiddie fan)

A lot of strange ideas(?)

[terrell]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

If everything was kosher with Trae, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, at least from my perspective. 

Phoenix wants in... lol

[Diesel]

1 minute ago, terrell said:

Phoenix wants in... lol

I can see Phoenix swinging a Ayton, Bridges and Picks for KD and Claxton. 

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

I can see Phoenix swinging a Ayton, Bridges and Picks for KD and Claxton. 

They have the best pkg, imho, but they're not a contender after the fact.

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I can see Phoenix swinging a Ayton, Bridges and Picks for KD and Claxton. 

Can't trade for Ayton without Simmons in the deal. Can't have two rookie max deals on one team unless they earned it on the same team. Also, PHX doesn't want to trade Bridges. 

It would have to be a role player plus Ayton with a lot of draft picks. 

[Threezus]

24 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Here's my FEAR...

At this point with the way the team is built and as much as i love the baptist i would probably take that deal.   I like Curry more than i like Bogi and Holiday can kick rocks.    

The Simmons and Collins one hurts me but with the limited touches he gets with the setup and offense we run now he is getting destroyed in what he can bring to the team (collins).  He really only gives solid rebounding and defense right now.  Thats the 2 things Simmons can do even better than Collins probably although rebounds are close shaded slightly to john.  But it is something isn't scared to do.  You add on top of that the assists and playmaking for others Simmons can do while not scoring and thats something John can't do. 

If i knew for a 100% fact that Collins could return to his prior 19+ 10+ self with these guys on the team already i wouldn't do this trade but i don't have much faith nate nor trae or Murray will give him the time of day to be that again.  So i might as well take a guy in Simmons who can do what collins is relegated to but better.

Edited February 6, 2023 by Threezus

[TRW]

Guys I hate to say it but Ben Simmons is broken mentally and physically. I don't think he enjoys the game only the status.

[JayBirdHawk]

30 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Can't trade for Ayton without Simmons in the deal. Can't have two rookie max deals on one team unless they earned it on the same team. Also, PHX doesn't want to trade Bridges. 

It would have to be a role player plus Ayton with a lot of draft picks. 

Huh?

Ayton doesn't have a designated max deal.

A team can only have 2 designated deals, one of which can be traded for.

[GameTime]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

Here's my FEAR...

[terrell]

43 minutes ago, Threezus said:

At this point with the way the team is built and as much as i love the baptist i would probably take that deal.   I like Curry more than i like Bogi and Holiday can kick rocks.    

The Simmons and Collins one hurts me but with the limited touches he gets with the setup and offense we run now he is getting destroyed in what he can bring to the team (collins).  He really only gives solid rebounding and defense right now.  Thats the 2 things Simmons can do even better than Collins probably although rebounds are close shaded slightly to john.  But it is something isn't scared to do.  You add on top of that the assists and playmaking for others Simmons can do while not scoring and thats something John can't do. 

If i knew for a 100% fact that Collins could return to his prior 19+ 10+ self with these guys on the team already i wouldn't do this trade but i don't have much faith nate nor trae or Murray will give him the time of day to be that again.  So i might as well take a guy in Simmons who can do what collins is relegated to but better.

Gotta move Capela if we get Ben..

 

[Sothron]

I'd rather keep JC than trade for Ben. I honestly think he's basically broken as a player. His salary and years left are too rich to take a chance his buddy Trae can fix him. 

Heard from one source tonight. Now teams are waiting for the Nets to trade KD so again teams are holding back on big trades to see if KD becomes available.