The Official NBASupes, Sothron, and theCampster Insider Thread - NBA 2022-23 Season

[Spud2nique]

Suns are doing the Nets big 3 crap all over but instead of Kyme and Harden it’s Beal and Book. 
 

I don’t know, they quick fix super teams, I kinda hate their guts. That’s another reason I loved the Nuggs winning it all, mainly in house draftees for them in Joker Jamal and Porter. 

[NBASupes]

34 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Portland should trade Dame ASAP. See if they can get Ayton for cheap and build around a core of Scoot / Ayton.

Most people think they will but they are talking to teams about trades. Watch for Toronto. Portland turned down a pick swap but if Indy and Toronto do a deal for OG. That would be more inciting. 

[theheroatl]

8 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Suns are doing the Nets big 3 crap all over but instead of Kyme and Harden it’s Beal and Book. 
 

I don’t know, they quick fix super teams, I kinda hate their guts. That’s another reason I loved the Nuggs winning it all, mainly in house draftees for them in Joker Jamal and Porter. 

Loved the Nuggets winning this year. Huge boost for NBA fans.

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

Most people think they will but they are talking to teams about trades. Watch for Toronto. Portland turned down a pick swap but if Indy and Toronto do a deal for OG. That would be more inciting. 

Something like:

Indy sends #7 to Toronto, receives OG and #13 

Toronto sends #7 and Pascal to PTL, receives #3

PTL send 3 Toronto, receives #7 and Pascal.

[NekiEcko]

So the question of the day is, that with all of this actions today, is it going to be harder for us to trade anybody and we might have to run it back.  But seriously Washington is stupid, and Phoenix is stupid.

[ShooterSays]

9 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Most people think they will but they are talking to teams about trades. Watch for Toronto. Portland turned down a pick swap but if Indy and Toronto do a deal for OG. That would be more inciting. 

Dame in Toronto is better than Miami for us.

IF IF IF Miami can figure out a way to get Dame, I’d hope we would take a hard look at OG for his perimeter defense.

Dame / Jimmy would not be fun in the division. 

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Dame in Toronto is better than Miami for us.

IF IF IF Miami can figure out a way to get Dame, I’d hope we would take a hard look at OG for his perimeter defense.

Dame / Jimmy would not be fun in the division. 

Unless I misunderstood @NBASupes....he's saying that before trading Dame, Blazers are looking into trading #3 to improve the team around him.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

It's official.  Beal to the Suns per twits. 

 

Supes said it first yesterday.

No more downing of the insiders.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

2 hours ago, ShooterSays said:

Reminds me of the Joe Johnson trade to BKN. Salary dump for a bunch of expirings. But even we were able to get a protected first out of it.

Ayton the next big domino to fall? Phoenix needs a defensive anchor who can rebound to pair next to those 3.

Capela would honestly be perfect but they ain’t got  to offer.

 

We also got the TPE that made enough room to sign Kyle Korver.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, terrell said:

Who's their PG? Booker?

 

It is I . . . . "The Running Mate"

Cam . . . Payne

 

[benhillboy]

2 hours ago, terrell said:

Imagine all of the mid range shots with Beal Booker and KD......... lol

The offense is gonna be so inefficient.  LeBron old injured, crusty ass dunked more times than all three of them combined last season (74 to 71).  And their three point rates from last season?

Durant 31% below league average 

Booker 24% below league average 

Beal 36% below league average

Going “all in” on a “Big 3” who shoot the three 30% less than league average and have never been defensive standouts to put it mildly.  Playing under a defensive-minded coach who’s likely not enamored with three point volume.  It’s amazing how inept some NBA brass are.

We  (@TheNorthCydeRises most of all) thought we had issues with three point volume.  Bey, Bogi, and AJ’s combined three point rates were 39% over league average, granted they all began the Hawks season at later junctures.  Before Bogi returned it was a real problem.
 

Luckily Phoenix fans and media are delicate af but we’ll get the usual Stephen A rants about how disappointing they are after he picked them to go the the Finals lol. He can’t understand most of the sh%t I just typed simple as it is.

Edited June 18, 2023 by benhillboy

[benhillboy]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

Agree this was an ownership move.  Disagree James Jones was "too smart".

He attached his career to LeBron’s so he’s no dummy lol.  I think you’re judging him based off his special-needsy face (no offense to anyone, I got a retarded aunt so that makes it okay). 

Edited June 18, 2023 by benhillboy

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, ShooterSays said:

Dame in Toronto is better than Miami for us.

IF IF IF Miami can figure out a way to get Dame, I’d hope we would take a hard look at OG for his perimeter defense.

Dame / Jimmy would not be fun in the division. 

I was talking more about Toronto helping Portland with players for Dame. Not Dame to Toronto. Toronto is not an option for Dame. He only wants Brooklyn or Miami

[kg01]

19 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

He attached his career to LeBron’s so he’s no dummy lol.  I think you’re judging him based off his special-needsy face (no offense to anyone, I got a retarded aunt so that makes it okay). 

*gasp* 

The crinkling sound is me literally clutching my pearls.

Seriously though, I'm judging him based on him requiring staff to call him "Champ" as if he had any dayum thing to do with those teams winnin any dayum thing. 

 

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Unless I misunderstood @NBASupes....he's saying that before trading Dame, Blazers are looking into trading #3 to improve the team around him.

This. The issue is Toronto isn't in the mood of helping anyone. They want to win, just build around a different core.

[kg01]

49 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

It is I . . . . "The Running Mate"

Cam . . . Payne

 

"More like Cham-Payne, amirite?!" - C. Payne

(high fives no one) 

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

This. The issue is Toronto isn't in the mood of helping anyone. They want to win, just build around a different core.

Masai being difficult to work with:

 

Speaking of Anunoby, there is a growing sense among executives who have called the Raptors (albeit with some caution) that Pascal Siakam may be easier to deal with than Anunoby currently. One savvy executive did mention that he felt that was a means to judge market value if and when the Raptors do decide to trade Anunoby. However, it’s fair to say front offices are pretty worn out on the attempts by Toronto to get “blood from a stone” as one executive put it at the deadline in any deal. Multiple sources have described the Raptors as frustrating to deal with. So why keep calling? “There are only 29 teams to work with.”

– via Matt Moore @ Action Network

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Masai being difficult to work with:

 

Speaking of Anunoby, there is a growing sense among executives who have called the Raptors (albeit with some caution) that Pascal Siakam may be easier to deal with than Anunoby currently. One savvy executive did mention that he felt that was a means to judge market value if and when the Raptors do decide to trade Anunoby. However, it’s fair to say front offices are pretty worn out on the attempts by Toronto to get “blood from a stone” as one executive put it at the deadline in any deal. Multiple sources have described the Raptors as frustrating to deal with. So why keep calling? “There are only 29 teams to work with.”

– via Matt Moore @ Action Network

He's not difficult to work with. He just wants an excellent deal. But a deal normally has one that's either contending or rebuilding and his is trying to contend so it's hard to do a deal with him. With deals, generally one side wants to win but to do an even deal is hard to do. 

To me, it just comes down to what they want to do with FVV. If they want to do a SnT with him, they might as well draft a PG or look to get a PG on the open market like Murray but that's gonna cost them Siakam. I don't see a deal unless they need or want Murray. No one else the Hawks have is equal value and the Raps aren't interested in picks and salary fits. 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Suns are doing the Nets big 3 crap all over but instead of Kyme and Harden it’s Beal and Book. 
 

I don’t know, they quick fix super teams, I kinda hate their guts. That’s another reason I loved the Nuggs winning it all, mainly in house draftees for them in Joker Jamal and Porter. 

 

Super teams are great for a bunch of regular season wins and good vibes throughout most of the year.  If healthy ( a big IF ), there's no reason why those 3 can't win 50+ games in Phoenix next year, and get a top 2 seed in the West.
 

Come playoff time, those super teams still have to prove themselves on the defensive end.  Look for Phoenix to try to load up on cheap veteran free agent defensive role players.  All of you know the usual suspects.

 

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

25 minutes ago, kg01 said:

"More like Cham-Payne, amirite?!" - C. Payne

(high fives no one)