Hawks in talks with Snyder

[JayBirdHawk]

Just now, GameTime said:

Nate with LP's system is a really really good coach. The fact that Nate is so set in his "system" that he is willing to lose instead of adapt to the modern NBA shows how stubborn he really is.

when @thecampster  noted that Nate was unwilling to let his assistant coaches run a counter to a defense to put the players in position to possibly succeed and his response is 'No, let them figure it out' - that tells me all I need to know.

[sturt]

A lot of popular... dare I say, also, "shallow"... conclusions in this thread that avoid the evidence.

But it's okay.

I'm just happy to be able to provide the public service that I do.

 

 

 

Carry on.

[Final_quest]

20 minutes ago, djjob23 said:

In summary, Chandler said Pierce firing wasn't Trae's fault (he was the worst coach he's ever played for), but it's Trae's fault for Nate getting fired and he knows better than everyone else because he played here. The fact is, Chandler wasn't here when Nate was coaching with the Hawks and can only go off Nate's reputation (as a coach with more wins than losses). However, for him to say it's Trae's fault (like the other talking heads) is absurd because it's only speculation unless you're in that locker room.

He didn’t actually say Trae got Nate fired.  He said emphatically that LP was a terrible fit and worst coach he’s ever had.  He then said Nate is a different story, but he never said Trae got him fired.  Just meant that he wasn’t necessarily fired for the same reasons as LP.  

[kg01]

10 minutes ago, terrell said:

Yeah if he was so good, why hasnt he got another HC job?

And why didnt Pop hire since he was the one who supposedly loved him so much? smh

Fair questions.

[thecampster]

13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

when @thecampster  noted that Nate was unwilling to let his assistant coaches run a counter to a defense to put the players in position to possibly succeed and his response is 'No, let them figure it out' - that tells me all I need to know.

Do not be surprised if you see curl screens off ball at the top tonight!!!

And don't be surprised if you see dump in, kick outs a few times too to JC/JJ.

[djjob23]

9 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

He didn’t actually say Trae got Nate fired.  He said emphatically that LP was a terrible fit and worst coach he’s ever had.  He then said Nate is a different story, but he never said Trae got him fired.  Just meant that he wasn’t necessarily fired for the same reasons as LP.  

Correct! I oversimplified and this is a much better summary of Chandler's statement. Listening to these talking heads is quite numbing haha! Hate that I gave it a click.

[LucastheThird]

6 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Do not be surprised if you see curl screens off ball at the top tonight!!!

And don't be surprised if you see dump in, kick outs a few times too to JC/JJ.

[JayBirdHawk]

22 minutes ago, sturt said:

A lot of popular... dare I say, also, "shallow"... conclusions in this thread that avoid the evidence.

 

Reposting in correct thread...

 

[sturt]

9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Reposting in correct thread...

 

 

OH. Okay. Wherever.

 

[sturt]

32 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Fair questions.

Are they though?

NBA head coach jobs don't fall off trees.

To be fair to Lloyd... not that anyone here is ever especially interested in being fair to any former ATL head coach... hehe... yeah, there's a definite pattern there... hehehe...

1. It's quite normal for a head coach to go somewhere to be an assistant for awhile before rising to the top of the list for some team's vacancy. Nothing unusual about that.

2. Lloyd did land with a team whose coach is among the generally-well-regarded head coaches in the league.

3. Pops can't hire everybody. But there can be little doubt that Pops thinks highly of Lloyd. We can debate how much of that is about basketball versus how much of it is about politics, but his sincerity in his comments shouldn't be blown off.

[JayBirdHawk]

11 minutes ago, sturt said:

 

OH. Okay. Wherever.

 

Doesn't change my point....I did not like Nate's change to the offense then and this year.

[sturt]

53 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

don't do @kg01 homework.

Like that's a thing? Again... theme developing here... where's the evidence that that's a thing?

 

 

 

[KB21]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

Doesn't change my point....I did not like Nate's change to the offense then and this year.

That was always my fear when they decided to hire him after that season.  I feared that he would go away from the more up tempo, shoot threes, get out in transition style.  It's why my preference was Kenny Atkinson at the time.  

[kg01]

Just now, sturt said:

Like that's a thing? Again... theme developing here... where's the evidence that that's a thing?

 

 

 

What?  That I don't do my homework?

Trust me, that's a 'thing'.  Ask my former teachers, brah. 

[sturt]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Doesn't change my point....I did not like Nate's change to the offense then and this year.

Well, first, I didn't specify any one individual in my allegation of "shallow" conclusions.

But clearly I was speaking to one conclusion in particular that's been asserted my multiple Squawkers in this thread.

 

And second, you agreed with that one.

 

And third, it won't ... though it should ... change agreement on that one by whoever has endorsed it.

 

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Aye, I said this yesterday and @REHawksFan got his thugs together and I got whupped pretty bad behind the gym after school.

New coach ain't gonna retain any staff and won't be running our current plays at all.  He won't have time to implement his 'stuff', so the idea that he'd helicopter in for a playoff push is wishful thinking at best.

So .... why not wait? 

[sturt]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Trust me

 

 

[Afro]

6 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Me whenever REH calls in his thugs lol

[AHF]

3 hours ago, NBASupes said:

He's highly valued within coaching circles in the NBA even if the Squawk hates him

If he is highly valued, he will be head coach of a team next year.  He has had two years already and no one has hired him.  When I think of a coach who is "highly valued", I think they don't really have a problem getting their next job.

[Afro]

 

 

Here we go