2023 NBA Offseason: Notes/Tidbits/Updates etc.

[Spud2nique]

On 10/11/2023 at 4:18 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

NBA: Load Management is no longer supported by scientific data

In a stunning development, a top NBA official said teams’ general practice of resting players to prevent future injury and extend careers — commonly known as “load management,” a term ingrained into the lexicon of the sport over the past several years as some of the biggest stars missed huge amounts of games — is no longer supported by scientific data held by the league.

 

– via Sam Amick, Joe Vardon, Joe Vardon and Sam Amick @ The Athletic

 Top Rumors, Load Management, NBA

 

 

“We’ve gotten more data, and it just doesn’t show that resting, sitting guys out correlates with lack of injuries, or fatigue, or anything like that,” Dumars said. “What it does show is maybe guys aren’t as efficient on the second night of a back to back.”

 

– via Sam Amick, Joe Vardon, Joe Vardon and Sam Amick @ The Athletic

 Joe Dumars, Load Management, NBA

 

 

Dumars said the NBA was trying to change “the culture of this league.” “The culture should be that every player should want to play 82 games,” Dumars said. “Obviously everybody’s not going to play 82 games, but everyone should want to play 82 games. And that’s the culture that we are trying to reestablish right now.”

 

– via Sam Amick, Joe Vardon, Joe Vardon and Sam Amick @ The Athletic

No $hit. Pardon my French.  

[Final_quest]

On 10/12/2023 at 11:30 AM, macdaddy said:

I mean....the scientific data supports what the league wants?  Wow! shocker.  

Next story is more revenue for owners and the league is scientifically proven to be better for players.  Trust the science.

[Spud2nique]

A ’s dozen get deals with Nike? Anyone know the Nuggets rookie? I’m unfamiliar with dude.

 

[Spud2nique]

Just now, Final_quest said:

Trust the science.

That could be a Sally Jesse Snyder poster with him posed as “thinker”.. {hand on his chin pondering schemes with them lovely }.

[AHF]

4 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

Next story is more revenue for owners and the league is scientifically proven to be better for players.  Trust the science.

 In fairness, load management does nothing to make the owners more money unless it works.  They should want their stars on the floor every night if it doesn't make a difference because people should be more willing to pay to watch Michael Jordan than they are to watch Jud Buechler.

[kg01]

23 minutes ago, AHF said:

 In fairness, load management does nothing to make the owners more money unless it works.  They should want their stars on the floor every night if it doesn't make a difference because people should be more willing to pay to watch Michael Jordan than they are to watch Jud Buechler.

Nope.  Players don't have to be on the court for the team to sell their jerseys, merchandise, and dreams.  Look at how LAC sells Kawhi.  Folks still out here talkin bout, "Man if Kawhi's healthy this year, watch out for tha Clippers!"

That crap translates to ticket sales, league pass subscriptions, jersey sales, etc.  Load mgt keeps guys on the team,which is all they need.  If they play, great.  But it's not a prerequisite.  

Eta.  And yes it does catch up eventually, if they don't play.  But it's been 4+ years for LAC.  That's all they need.  They can securely move onto the next pipe dream if they want. 

Edited October 23, 2023 by kg01

[AHF]

2 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Nope.  Players don't have to be on the court for the team to sell their jerseys, merchandise, and dreams.  Look at how LAC sells Kawhi.  Folks still out here talkin bout, "Man if Kawhi's healthy this year, watch out for tha Clippers!"

That crap translates to ticket sales, league pass subscriptions, jersey sales, etc.  Load mgt keeps guys on the team,which is all they need.  If they play, great.  But it's not a prerequisite.  

How does load management make them money?  I am  just not seeing it.  How is Kawhi on the bench instead of playing helping them make money?  The player is on the team either way.

[kg01]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

How does load management make them money?  I am  just not seeing it.  How is Kawhi on the bench instead of playing helping them make money?  The player is on the team either way.

It extends the money-making window.  If kawhi had been playing, he'd likely be out of the league by now.  Thus the money making window is closed.  As it is, they can probably extend him again and get more years of ancillary monies off his NIL.

[AHF]

Just now, kg01 said:

It extends the money-making window.  If kawhi had been playing, he'd likely be out of the league by now.  Thus the money making window is closed.  As it is, they can probably extend him again and get more years of ancillary monies off his NIL.

That is saying that load management in fact works by reducing the risk of injury and extending careers.  That makes sense to me but it is contrary to the article that argues load management does not actually do this.  Load management only makes money for owners if it works.

[kg01]

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

That is saying that load management in fact works by reducing the risk of injury and extending careers.  That makes sense to me but it is contrary to the article that argues load management does not actually do this.  Load management only makes money for owners if it works.

It artificially extends careers.  As an extreme example, if I sit you for 3 years after ypu tear your achilles, have i not "extended your career"?  See how stupid that sounds?  Well that's the baseline concept of load management.  IOW, it was always asinine which is why I can't understand why it lasted so long.

It doesn't reduce injury risk and it never has.  Unless it's accepted that a player can't be injured if he does not play -which is silly. 

This article tells us nothing new.  It just admits out loud that the whole concept is dumb because they're not robots.  Load management only exists to justify the sleep analyst and other new personnel.