2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[tyjcdh112012]

Anyone else get a dopamine rush when Sothron or supes drop an update 

[BangHolman]

16 minutes ago, terrell said:

Based off of what? Not saying he isnt. Just sayin what makes yall think he's this guaranteed future All Star?

Exactly. I'm excited about AJ, but if I only have to trade one of him, JJ, and OO for someone that's already a star, it's an easy decision. Make the damn move.

[theheroatl]

22 minutes ago, terrell said:

Based off of what? Not saying he isnt. Just sayin what makes yall think he's this guaranteed future All Star?

I suggest you deep dive into things. AJ had a top tier rookie season on Per 36.

Also, note his 2p%, FT %, AJ's turnover rate for a ROOKIE.

For example, please review these players...

Bogi

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2017-18	25	SAC	NBA	SG	78	53	2175	5.7	12.8	.446	2.1	5.4	.392	3.6	7.3	.485	1.7	2.0	.840	0.5	3.2	3.7	4.3	1.2	0.3	2.1	2.8	15.2

Deandre Hunter

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2019-20	22	ATL	NBA	SF	63	62	2018	5.0	12.2	.410	1.9	5.4	.355	3.1	6.8	.454	2.0	2.6	.764	0.8	4.3	5.1	2.0	0.8	0.3	1.8	3.2	13.9

Klay

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2011-12	21	GSW	NBA	SG	66	29	1608	7.1	16.1	.443	2.5	6.0	.414	4.6	10.1	.460	1.8	2.0	.868	0.5	3.1	3.6	3.0	1.1	0.4	2.3	3.5	18.5

SGA

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2018-19	20	LAC	NBA	PG	82	73	2174	5.6	11.9	.476	0.8	2.3	.367	4.8	9.6	.503	2.6	3.2	.800	0.9	2.9	3.8	4.5	1.6	0.7	2.3	2.9	14.7

Beal

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2012-13	19	WAS	NBA	SG	56	46	1745	5.8	14.2	.410	1.9	4.9	.386	3.9	9.3	.424	2.6	3.3	.786	0.9	3.5	4.4	2.8	1.0	0.6	1.9	2.3	16.1

AJ

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2022-23	19	ATL	NBA	SF	72	12	1401	6.4	13.7	.465	2.6	6.7	.390	3.8	7.0	.536	1.1	1.2	.894	1.0	3.0	3.9	1.9	1.1	0.3	1.1	2.2	16.4

Edited July 14, 2023 by theheroatl

[skimaskway23]

7 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

If it wasn’t for our on court regression the past 2 seasons, I would be a part of the run it back bandwagon.

But after finishing .500 and trading JC, I just don’t see a way we can go in to the season without adding some kind of talent to the roster. Doesn’t even have to mean Siakam or KAT, but there has to be some kind of talent improvement if we are serious about being better next season.

If the argument is that Quinn and our young talent will develop and we will improve as a result, then I point back to the JC trade. No need to make that move if you want to let things to grow organically.

Im okay with clearing space to add and get better, not clearing space just to dodge tax.

Addition by subtraction is a possibility.

If you get better production in those minutes John played, you get a different outcome. We have players capable of that because John set the bar low after last season's performance

[HawksNWaffles]

6 minutes ago, tyjcdh112012 said:

Anyone else get a dopamine rush when Sothron or supes drop an update 

[Plainview1981]

17 minutes ago, skimaskway23 said:

Addition by subtraction is a possibility.

If you get better production in those minutes John played, you get a different outcome. We have players capable of that because John set the bar low after last season's performance

I think this kind of mindset is sometimes a cope. Even if OO would be better as the starting PF, you've lost his production off the bench. The best bench player up front is JJ? Who hasn't done anything yet. Doing nothing for the rest of the offseason looks bad.

[Diesel]

1 hour ago, shakes said:

it's only based off the view while wearing extreme homer glasses.  There has been nothing yet to suggest that AJ is on his way to being an all star.    He hasn't even proven that he's on his way to being a starter in the NBA yet.

His shooting percentage and patience is pretty good for somebody that's 19.   A lot will depend on what he does with this season. 

[thecampster]

2 hours ago, Sothron said:

So Steve Koonin confirms what we were telling you on here for sometime about trades we were/are close to making. I legit thought last weekend KAT would be announced. I still think there's a chance it happens just now the timeline is pushed back to Sept.

They said what we've been saying....money....they fell through due to money.

[ShooterSays]

How would y’all feel about this?

[thecampster]

2 hours ago, tyjcdh112012 said:

Anyone else get a dopamine rush when Sothron or supes drop an update 

The other reason I post less...I don't want to be known as anyone's dealer.

 

If you guys fall off the wagon and go back to crack its not our fault !!! 

[Hawkish]

1 minute ago, ShooterSays said:

How would y’all feel about this?

Why doesn’t Charlotte want to keep him?

[Jdawgflow]

20 minutes ago, thecampster said:

They said what we've been saying....money....they fell through due to money.

Would you expound on this a bit?  

[JeffS17]

2 hours ago, tyjcdh112012 said:

Anyone else get a dopamine rush when Sothron or supes drop an update 

No, I check for new threads welcoming new players lol… rumors dont do it for me, but I do enjoy the discussion 

[kg01]

27 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

How would y’all feel about this?

Eh, he's a talented body but not one I'd wanna spend a lotta money on. 

27 minutes ago, thecampster said:

The other reason I post less...I don't want to be known as anyone's dealer.

 

If you guys fall off the wagon and go back to crack its not our fault !!! 

Yesh, yesh, push all your addicts to the outsiders.... 

[shakes]

28 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Why doesn’t Charlotte want to keep him?

Because he’s not that good.

[JayBirdHawk]

31 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Why doesn’t Charlotte want to keep him?

Money - he wants too much!

[JayBirdHawk]

17 minutes ago, Jdawgflow said:

Would you expound on this a bit?  

I'm thinking they aren't interested in paying Siakam a full max deal starting at $47.7 mil and also not the maximum number of years. Probably wants to give him a 2yr extension.

Toronto doesn't seem to want to give him a max either. He passed on 3yr/$1×5 mill last offseason.

[Hawkish]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Money - he wants too much!

Correct— So why would it be any different in Atlanta?

[Gray Mule]

I wanted that Duke center they drafted last summer.  That's the only player that they have that I know anything about.  If they don't want to pay this player, why should we?

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Correct— So why would it be any different in Atlanta?

Not advocating for the Hawks to sign him.

But Sometimes, it's based on wether teams are in a win now window that can use a player vs the HorCats that are rebuilding.