theheroatl Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 14 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: Mobley is the Cavs Center of the future. Any trade with them probably has to start with Jalen Johnson. Imagine they'd want a SG in return too so probably Bogi. Cleveland is in a similar position as us with another team owning all their picks, so they need to stay competitive. They'll also assuredly want picks back as well. Edit: Mitchell has a player option after next season so very very risky for any team who trades for him. Yeah I think any Mitchell trade has Bogi and JJ. It is what it is because that’s what Cleveland would want. As for the contract situation… yeah it’s risky but what isn’t these days in the NBA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 It's more likely that Cleveland trades Garland. They are going to put on the full court press to extend Mitchell. A Mitchell trade to us has a low probability of occuring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, Sothron said: I have not been giving the okay to say anything about Mitchell or Cleveland other than to say this. Read into or not into what you want. Yes the interest is real. He loves Quin and Quin loves him. Not a clean fit. Defensively they can't be any worse than Trae and DJM but offensively would be so much better since Donovan is actually a stud off ball and an elite scorer. The hope is you are building Quin's Jazz teams but with better wing play since their best wing player in that time was Royce o Neal. Ideally though even if it doesn't work you can move Trae in some time and still have an elite star to move. I would be interested to see how Trae plays when someone better than him is on the team 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 Just now, bleachkit said: It's more likely that Cleveland trades Garland. They are going to put on the full court press to extend Mitchell. A Mitchell trade to us has a low probability of occuring. It all depends on how Mitchell feels… Remember these guys are emotional and seem to want whatever they want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Yeah I think any Mitchell trade has Bogi and JJ. It is what it is because that’s what Cleveland would want. As for the contract situation… yeah it’s risky but what isn’t these days in the NBA Any trade would have to be contingent on an extension. We can't trade and then have him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Yeah I think any Mitchell trade has Bogi and JJ. It is what it is because that’s what Cleveland would want. As for the contract situation… yeah it’s risky but what isn’t these days in the NBA I don't see how that would work honestly. If you are going to bring in Mitchell with Trae, you almost have to have a JJ, Sarr, OO defensive front court to cover it. Or something similar length wise. Trade Hunter, Kob, Bogi, AJ, Mo, or anyone else not named JJ, Sarr, or OO. This is why I think a 3rd team would have to be involved. The Cavs this season were Top 10 defensively and just league average or slightly below offensively. They can probably afford to sub out defense for more offense. Bring in Ingram and Bogi for Mitchell. Why not? Garland/Bogi/Ingram/Mobley/Allen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 16 Author Moderators Report Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, REHawksFan said: I don't see how that would work honestly. If you are going to bring in Mitchell with Trae, you almost have to have a JJ, Sarr, OO defensive front court to cover it. Or something similar length wise. Trade Hunter, Kob, Bogi, AJ, Mo, or anyone else not named JJ, Sarr, or OO. This is why I think a 3rd team would have to be involved. The Cavs this season were Top 10 defensively and just league average or slightly below offensively. They can probably afford to sub out defense for more offense. Bring in Ingram and Bogi for Mitchell. Why not? Garland/Bogi/Ingram/Mobley/Allen I also have a very hard time seeing trades that work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 16 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 16 If Trae is asking out, would you guys entertain and Trae/Mitchell swap? Seems like Trae + the bigs in Cleveland would feast and Mitchell would fit well with Murray and would obviously plug into our offense with Quin seamlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted May 16 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, Sothron said: I have not been giving the okay to say anything about Mitchell or Cleveland other than to say this. Read into or not into what you want. Similarly, I'm sitting on an Outsiders update that'll knock your socks off. I'll just drop one word ..... aliens. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: If Trae is asking out, would you guys entertain and Trae/Mitchell swap? Seems like Trae + the bigs in Cleveland would feast and Mitchell would fit well with Murray and would obviously plug into our offense with Quin seamlessly. Ask CLE why they want Trae and Garland. Trae is clearly an upgrade but their organization may value Garland higher just because they drafted him. I expect better than this from you, jeffe. Come on, man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: If Trae is asking out, would you guys entertain and Trae/Mitchell swap? Seems like Trae + the bigs in Cleveland would feast and Mitchell would fit well with Murray and would obviously plug into our offense with Quin seamlessly. I'm not an advocate for trading Trae in general, but if there were some assurances to a Mitchell extension, this is one of the few deals I could see as being good for him. DJ and Mitchell could work both size and skill wise. Unless Cleveland moves off Garland though, I'm not sure they'd be into it as much. Maybe they flip Garland to a 3rd team (NO?) for another scorer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 16 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 16 Just now, kg01 said: Ask CLE why they want Trae and Garland. Trae is clearly an upgrade but their organization may value Garland higher just because they drafted him. I expect better than this from you, jeffe. Come on, man. Garland is trash so I imagine they want a much better PG to build around-- one that can actually facilitate to their bigs and run the offense. Mobley is nice in the PnR and Allen is a lob threat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 5 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: If Trae is asking out, would you guys entertain and Trae/Mitchell swap? Seems like Trae + the bigs in Cleveland would feast and Mitchell would fit well with Murray and would obviously plug into our offense with Quin seamlessly. Well Trae's career offensive numbers are better than Mitchell's. But my guess is Cleveland would prefer to keep Mitchell. I suspect teams are leery of Trae for whatever reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 Just now, JeffS17 said: Garland is trash so I imagine they want a much better PG to build around Agreed. I was just yanking your chain. Most of the pg's people rated highly are crashing down to earth. Garland is definitely on that list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 16 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, bleachkit said: Well Trae's career offensive numbers are better than Mitchell's. But my guess is Cleveland would prefer to keep Mitchell. I suspect teams are leery of Trae for whatever reason. Yeah, he's a better offensive centerpiece for sure, Mitchell can be a chucker at times and loves to fall back into iso possessions. He was like that even in Utah... his defense is a big upgrade over Trae though so it's a fit and business question mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 6 minutes ago, kg01 said: Similarly, I'm sitting on an Outsiders update that'll knock your socks off. I'll just drop one word ..... aliens. It's time..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted May 16 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16 Honestly, with the luck of the lottery, I would probably be excited for this season even if we made only a couple of small moves. Enjoy watching rookies develop and Sarr is going to be playable early because of his defense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawksNWaffles Posted May 16 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, kg01 said: Similarly, I'm sitting on an Outsiders update that'll knock your socks off. I'll just drop one word ..... aliens. Aliens you say ?? Now to disappear again Edited May 16 by HawksNWaffles 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, HawksNWaffles said: Now to disappear again Naw, you ain't "disappearing". You gettin banned for that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 12 minutes ago, HawksNWaffles said: Aliens you say ?? Now to disappear again Could have gone my whole life without seeing alien booty 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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