I would love/rather (Embiid > Siakam)

[sillent]

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, sillent said:

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

[kg01]

There's a mountain of evidence against JoeLLLL being an actual game-changer when it matters. 

[macdaddy]

I've never been a big fan of Embiid but he is a great player.  Problem is he's reaching an age where a 7 foot / 280+ pound guy with a history of foot and knee problems starts to become a risk.   Not saying i wouldn't want him though but i'm not convinced it's the right move for the Hawks. 

[Spud2nique]

14 minutes ago, sillent said:

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

Did you look at @thecampster paper on the other thread? The name the player you’d most wanna see wear a Hawks uni? Ya, he went “other” with Oel Jambleed.

[kg01]

39 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I've never been a big fan of Embiid but he is a great player.  Problem is he's reaching an age where a 7 foot / 280+ pound guy with a history of foot and knee problems starts to become a risk.   Not saying i wouldn't want him though but i'm not convinced it's the right move for the Hawks. 

I am.  I'm sayin it.  I'll say it for you.  You're welcome. 

[macdaddy]

3 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I am.  I'm sayin it.  I'll say it for you.  You're welcome. 

Yeah you're right.  I definitely don't want to be watching a stumbling old dude roll around on the floor for $60 million/year.  

[kg01]

Repost alert ....

3 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Yeah you're right.  I definitely don't want to be watching a stumbling old dude roll around on the floor for $60 million/year.  

Not to mention him falling into and injuring other teammates. 

[shakes]

1 hour ago, sillent said:

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

what do you think it would cost us?   I need a good laugh.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, sillent said:

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

Which one has won a championship?

[theheroatl]

1 hour ago, sillent said:

I would love to miss out on getting Siakam entirely and would rather get an Embiid when he inevitably ask for a trade.

Embiid is a game changer and if we got Trae, Murray and Embiid it would be more understandable to trade some of our youth.

lol no

[BangHolman]

Morey will want the world.

[theheroatl]

3 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

Morey will want the world.

I don’t see how any Gm should trade with that clown anymore

[sillent]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Did you look at @thecampster paper on the other thread? The name the player you’d most wanna see wear a Hawks uni? Ya, he went “other” with Oel Jambleed.

Naw I didn't see it . I might look for it now 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

I am.  I'm sayin it.  I'll say it for you.  You're welcome. 

You’re ridin high today huh.. woooo weeeee.. not a care in the world , dayum I wish I was in the cul de to pants you right quick. 

[sillent]

32 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Which one has won a championship?

That's why I'd bet on the hungry one not the one that already ate. Although I get your point.

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, sillent said:

might look for it now 

NO DONT! He may like the attention.  

[AHF]

2 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Which one has won a championship?

This seems like a deliberately misleading question.  Here is how Siakam compared against his teammates for productivity during the playoffs when Kawhi led them to a ring:

He had fewer than half as many win shares as Kawhi and was nestled between Lowry (2.8) and Gasol (2.3) and closer to Gasol with his 2.4 total win shares.  On a per minute basis, he was much closer to Ibaka and Powell than he was to Kawhi.

Now @kg01 is completely right that Embiid has underperformed in the playoffs.  There is no arguing that.  But he has still outperformed Siakam's playoff record other than when teams were keying on Kawhi and leaving him a lot more freedom to operate.  

There are good reasons to push back on the idea of Embiid but Siakam having been there when Kawhi carried them to a ring isn't one of them, imo.

[thecampster]

12 minutes ago, AHF said:

This seems like a deliberately misleading question.  Here is how Siakam compared against his teammates for productivity during the playoffs when Kawhi led them to a ring:

He had fewer than half as many win shares as Kawhi and was nestled between Lowry (2.8) and Gasol (2.3) and closer to Gasol with his 2.4 total win shares.  On a per minute basis, he was much closer to Ibaka and Powell than he was to Kawhi.

Now @kg01 is completely right that Embiid has underperformed in the playoffs.  There is no arguing that.  But he has still outperformed Siakam's playoff record other than when teams were keying on Kawhi and leaving him a lot more freedom to operate.  

There are good reasons to push back on the idea of Embiid but Siakam having been there when Kawhi carried them to a ring isn't one of them, imo.

Not to mention Gasol was a load, Ibaka was a problem and Lowry was quite a few cheeseburgers thinner.

[AHF]

2 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Not to mention Gasol was a load, Ibaka was a problem and Lowry was quite a few cheeseburgers thinner.

Siakam was an important part of a good team.  But it was Kawhi's run through the playoffs that elevated them, not Siakam's playoff performance.