Admin chillzatl Posted April 23, 2004 Admin Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Give us your picks. This catagory is for the "Marquee player" who did the absolute least for his team in relation to his contract or celebrity status. Injured players do not apply. GIVE US YOUR VOTES! After compiling an acceptable list of candidates, we will have a real poll to decide the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoostal Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Diesel's boy Glenn Robinson, he played in 42 games, I don't know if it qualifies him or not If not I will go with Rasha Nesterovic, he may not be popular, but he isn't worth his salary P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 They are the same guy in my opinion. Both are WAY overpaid to play the same position yet neither can beat out the great Vitali Potapenko for the Sonics' starting Center role. Both averaged around 5 ppg and both averaged less than 4 rbg while making over $5 million/season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHORO44 Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Tim Thomas, Glenn Robinson, Antoine Walker...these guys are duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 season. He only played in 42 games or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Shareef.....sorry to go there, but he did absolutely nothing to help Portland win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 shootin .387%... i also believe that his team had a better RECORD w/o him than with him this year. im sure u can find a scrub to fit this award, but out of the STAR PLAYERS... i think its iverson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Toine vs. Dirk? vs. Jalen Rose.It's a tough call for me. I'm excluding players like Houston and Dog (out most of the season), Richardson/Mo (still on rookie contract) and Reef (let's be honest, he didn't play cause they didn't play him ~ and they hadn't planned on it when they traded for him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 i totally forgot about Jalen Rose... hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I take it back. TMac. Dude flat out sucked this year, cried and whined, and that cowardly [censored] at the end of the season really put a bad taste in my mouth. I realize that the team was not suited for him and perhaps the coaching staff was unstable....but he carried a team with above average starters at four positions to last in the association (Gooden, Howard would start on 2/3 the teams in the assoc, Lue on 1/3 maybe). Whatever happened to their backcourt wonderkid Gaines (and who wanted to trade up for him soooo badly last year???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Shareef. As said above he gets 12million and he didn't help do jack this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 TMac makes more....and his team won 21 games this season. We has 18 when we traded Reef, I daresay we'd have won at least three more sans transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted April 23, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I'll go with McDyess who has done very little since coming back from injury. I can't pick on the rookies too much, and we all have our gripes about our own players, but Hansen was kinda floating around at the beginning of the season. Not his fault, but SAR has no purpose in Portland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 24, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Good Old Kobe Bryant. He's supposed to be top 5 some people say top 3, and look at what he did this year... 24, 5, and 5.5 down from 30, 7, and 5.6. Shooting percentage down 1.4 %, 3 pt percentage down 5%. Steals down by 40%. Blocks cut in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 I hesitate to even reply to this and egg you on, but since I'm heading out of town for the week I'll go ahead an do it ~ Kobe had a career year last year. Remember the hoopla as he bulked up 15-20 lbs during the offseason (before last season, not this one, which had it's own hoopla) and came out with a vengence? he backed it up, carried the team, including that 40pt stretch (much of which was without Shaq)...and you called his points and play selfish. However, with the additional of two recent multi-year all-stars, his boards fell from 6.9 to 5.5 this year and his assists slipped slightly...yet you fail to mention/realize that those numbers (which you hated/said were flawed in garnering) would still rank in his personal top two seasons sans career year. You're right though. Due to significant injury this year (surgery in the pre-season), ongoing legal and and personal issues, his mpg are the lowest since his soph year. Coincidentally, as he has taken fewer shots and played fewer minutes, and his shooting percentage suqsequently slipped to 43.8% this year (your boy TMac "slipped" to 41.7% this year) ~I don't see how you can even make an argument that TMac had a worse year (though I'm not sure that that's the point of this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 while Kobes numbers are down, hes still playin like an allstar... so i dont think this award fits KOBE. with the addition of 2 FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS, each individual (of the 4) will suffer when it comes to individual stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 24, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Kobe is celebrated as on of the top 5 guys in this league..... Welll this year, he's exposed.... Among SGs, he ranks...#2 in scoring which is good... However, among SGs he's #14 in FG%. Among SGs, he's #7 in rebounds... Among SGs, he's #4 in assists.... Among SGs, he's #13 in steals. Among SGs, he's #12 in blocks. Look at the numbers, Paul Pierce, Crawford, Kobe is no longer a top 5 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Paul Pierce? Paul isn't even that good of a player anymore. Did you see him in the playoffs? Just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 24, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Exactly... Statwise, Kobe and Pierce are very comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 I meant PP isn't that good this year. But Kobe is more gifted than Paul...He's more athletic and has been handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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