I'm still pissed about the Pape Sy pick.

[mrhonline]

Anyone else embarrassed?

The guy is either the biggest "under the radar" pick ever or the Hawks are a joke at drafting. You pick.

[Sothron]

Anyone else embarrassed?

The guy is either the biggest "under the radar" pick ever or the Hawks are a joke at drafting. You pick.

He's another safe waste of a second round pick on a guy who will never make the roster. The cheap ASG couldn't sell that pick so they settle for basically picking no one just like they did with Cenk Aykol and David Anderson.

[Admin]

I'm not pissed about the pick since I didn't expect to get anything out of that pick anyway and truth be told I'm very intruiged by the mystery of him. Not to mention it NEVER hurts to have a guy who wants to make it to the NBA so badly that they pay their own way to workout for you.

Still not happy about the handling of the 31st pick though!

[YP2K]

Because you know the next star who should have been picked instead?

[TheNorthCydeRises]

A late 2nd round pick in the NBA might as well be a 7th round pick in the NFL. In that position, you'll be lucky to find a guy that makes your team, let alone be able to contribute down the road ( especially if he's a wing ).

You guys know better than this.

[Buzzard]

A late 2nd round pick in the NBA might as well be a 7th round pick in the NFL. In that position, you'll be lucky to find a guy that makes your team, let alone be able to contribute down the road ( especially if he's a wing ).

You guys know better than this.

Yep but if that is truly the case northcyde why have a 2nd round to begin with; and just let teams go after the Boozers, Milsaps, Big Bens (now that would have been a really bad 53rd pick) etc all on their own. Maybe the owners who do draft well understand they have a decided advantage over the clubs that don't and secondly, here is were our owners really missed with 31, the 2nd round is a low risk ( zero risk honestly....non guaranteed contract) high reward proposition.

There were a couple of guys there to take a flyer on besides Pape.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Buzzard

[dms269]

Is he gonna play in the summer league with Jordan and Teague?

[Marvin24Williams]

You never know man. Hopefully he will develop nicely and can contribute to this team

[Blunt91]

I'm not pissed about the pick since I didn't expect to get anything out of that pick anyway and truth be told I'm very intruiged by the mystery of him. Not to mention it NEVER hurts to have a guy who wants to make it to the NBA so badly that they pay their own way to workout for you.

Still not happy about the handling of the 31st pick though!

Yeah but we had a chance to redeem ourselves somewhat if we had of used the 53rd pick on Stanley Robinson. This was a guy who was projected to go early in the 2nd round. Heck not too long ago he was projected as a late 1st round pick. Paying someone with Stanley Robinson's potential the rookie league minimum would have been a great bargain.

[DrReality]

Had the same thoughts about Robinson.

[mrhonline]

I had a few rebuttals, but still too pissed.

[bird_dirt]

I'm not pissed about the pick since I didn't expect to get anything out of that pick anyway and truth be told I'm very intruiged by the mystery of him. Not to mention it NEVER hurts to have a guy who wants to make it to the NBA so badly that they pay their own way to workout for you.

Still not happy about the handling of the 31st pick though!

i don't know...they made $3mil off a pick that they would've paid what, 500k? for only playing randmo minutes, if that? that's 2.5 mil worth of profit for nothing (3.5 if they just pocketed the money vs. paying a rookie), that HOPEFULLY they actually will use towards a player who could help them out. if they just pocket the money, it would be cheap, but if they actually do what they could with that, i'd call it savvy. time will tell.

i actually was a little more embarrassed by the fact that pape sy had to pay his own way to work out. i mean, if the team thinks that there is any shot that you could be useful to the team, enough to bring you in for multiple workouts, and you can't even shell out $500-1000 for a lousy plane ticket? that speaks more to me about how cheap the team is.

one amusing observation for be regarding the draft--i thought it was pretty funny that the player the hawks picked in the first round wasn't there, but that both of their second round picks were. just found that interesting.

[NJHAWK]

Complaints about pick 31 are unwarranted .Why try to draft a guy like the German kid who they said could be a young Rick Smits? Why draft a kid like Whiteside who avr 5 blocks a game in college and has a sick wingspan and upside? Why develope these guys when you can use that 3 mill to sign back Joe Smith and Randolph Morris. Maybe even go splurge on Johan Petro.

[lethalweapon3]

Not "embarrassed" about taking Pepsi at 53, more regretful that we didn't take someone who will help our bench right away (when there were clearly such players available, a rarity at this point in the draft). Until he proves otherwise he's another Othello Hunter.

~lw3

[spotatl]

I'll put any amount of money you want that Stanley Robinson will have a better NBA career than Sy. I'll be more than happy to admit later that I was wrong but from where I sit it was just an incompetent pick.

[AHF]

If they don't legitimately think Sy was the best talent on the board, I would be ticked off about the #53 pick. At that point, it is truly a long, long shot to find someone who can contribute but it is definitely not worth throwing away since you could always draft the next Manu Ginobili, Chuck Hayes, Ben Wallace, etc. It is a long shot but someone wins the lottery, right? Don't count on it but don't throw away a ticket in hand either.

My beef remains more with the #31 pick. NJHAWK nailed it:

Complaints about pick 31 are unwarranted .Why try to draft a guy like the German kid who they said could be a young Rick Smits? Why draft a kid like Whiteside who avr 5 blocks a game in college and has a sick wingspan and upside? Why develop these guys when you can use that 3 mill to sign back Joe Smith and Randolph Morris. Maybe even go splurge on Johan Petro.

[ATLSmith]

He could be the next Michael Peatrus for all we know...

[Admin]

i don't know...they made $3mil off a pick that they would've paid what, 500k? for only playing randmo minutes, if that? that's 2.5 mil worth of profit for nothing (3.5 if they just pocketed the money vs. paying a rookie), that HOPEFULLY they actually will use towards a player who could help them out. if they just pocket the money, it would be cheap, but if they actually do what they could with that, i'd call it savvy. time will tell.

i actually was a little more embarrassed by the fact that pape sy had to pay his own way to work out. i mean, if the team thinks that there is any shot that you could be useful to the team, enough to bring you in for multiple workouts, and you can't even shell out $500-1000 for a lousy plane ticket? that speaks more to me about how cheap the team is.

one amusing observation for be regarding the draft--i thought it was pretty funny that the player the hawks picked in the first round wasn't there, but that both of their second round picks were. just found that interesting.

IF we use that 3 million and bring in a player that can actually make the team better then I have no problem with us passing up drafting a project big there. On the other hand if we use that 3 million to sign scrubs that won't improve the team then I have a big problem with us making that trade.

Being the eternal optimist that I am helps me to believe that we will use that 3 million to make this years team better than it would have been if we hadn't made that trade, however, my complaint is that we didn't get any draft pick compensation for giving OKC the best choice in the 2nd round. It would be difficult to convince me that we couldn't have found a team willing to offer the 3 million, plus a future 1st or 2nd round draft pick, and that's my issue is that I just don't feel like we got maximum value in that trade.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

The #53 pick since 1990 . . . and the best player picked after him in bold

1990: Abdul Samsaid-Deen

Sean Higgins #54 . . SF . . former Michigan standout . . played 6 years for 6 teams in the NBA . . best season came in Golden St, in which he scored 8 ppg off the bench.

1991: Von McDale . . . . ( the next player didn't play in the NBA )

1992: Curtis Blair . . . ( the next player didn't play in the NBA )

1993: Lenord White . . ( the next player didn't play in the NBA )

1994: Albert Burditt

Zeljko Rebraca #54 . . Center . . drafted in 94, but didn't set foot in the NBA until 2001 . . played for 5 seasons ( 215 games ) and averaged 5.9 pts and 3.2 rebs for his career

1995: Constatin Popa

Chris Carr #56 . . SG . . best season was in Minnesota in his 3rd year, where he almost averaged 10 ppg . . played 6 years in the NBA

1996: Jeff Norgaard

Shandon Anderson #54 . . SG/SF . . former Georgia star who played 10 seasons in the NBA . . was a key player off the bench for Utah during their 1998 NBA Finals run . . best year was in Houston where he averaged 12.3 pts and 4.7 rebs )

1997: Paul Rogers

Mark Blount #54 . . C . . played 9 seasons in the NBA . . developed into a decent offensive center from 2003 - 07 as a center for Boston and Milwaukee that averaged between 9 and 12 ppg during that time.

1998: Greg Buckner ( also the best player ) . . SG . . played for 10 seasons in the NBA . . most known for as being a pretty good defender, which kept him in the NBA for that long . . averaged 5 ppg for his career.

1999: Rodney Buford ( played for 5 teams in 5 NBA seasons averaged 6.4 ppg and 2.6 rebs ) .

MANU GINOBLI #57 . . easily the best pick ever after #53 . . no need to run down his credentials. We all know that he's very good.

2000: Corey Hightower

Chris Porter . . former Auburn star who played in only 51 games in the NBA

2001: Kenny Satterfield ( he was the best player, but only played for 2 seasons and 75 games )

2002: Rasual Butler . . SF . . has survived in the NBA for 8 years as a 3 point specialist . . has averaged 10 ppg in 3 of the past 4 seasons . . currently with the Clippers

Luis Scola #55 . . PF . . stayed away from the NBA for 5 yeas, until making his debut in 2007 . . has been a very solid PF for the Rockets averaging 13.1 ppg and 7.9 rebs in 3 years . . had his best year as a pro last year putting up 16 ppg and almost 9 rebs.

2003: Tommy Smith

Brandon Hunter #56 . . played 2 seasons ( 67 games ) . ., averaged a little over 3 ppg

2004: Matt Freije ( remember him Hawks fans? ) . . . he was also the best player taken . . played for 2 seasons ( 41 games ) . . shot a dismal 30% FG and 14% 3FG in his 19 game career in Atlanta

2005: Orien Greene . G . . stuck around for 3 seasons ( 128 games ) . . 2.5 ppg for his career

Amir Johnson #54 . . F/C . . a prospect pick by Detroit that hasn't materalized into a solid talent yet . . still very young though . . aveaged 6 pts and 5 rebs in 18 minutes last year. . . . Marcin Gortat was also selected #56 ( vastly overrated Center )

2006: Yotam Halperim

Hassan Adams . . . Salim's teammate while at Arizona . . . G . . played for 2 seasons ( 73 games ) . . aveaged 2.5 ppg in his career

2007: Demetris Nichols

Ramon Sessions #56 . . PG . . has averaged 10 pts and 5 assists in his 3 year career in the NBA . . had his best season 2 years ago in Milwaukee, in which he averaged 12 pts and almost 6 assists

2008: Tadija Dragicevic

Mike Taylor #55 . . . played 1 season for the Clippers

2009: Nando De Colo

Lester Hudson or Patrick Mills. . . take your pick . . . Lester has played in 25 games for 2 teams . . Patrick ( Patty MIlls ) played in 10 games last year

Starting Lineup on your Picked After #53 team

PG - Sessions

G - Ginobli

F - Shandon Anderson

F - Scola

C - Blount

Edited June 29, 2010 by northcyde

[BusBoyIsBack]

No one is saying the 31st or the 53rd pick would be an all-nba player but at least it could have been likely an upgrade on the bench instead of completely wasting it like we just did.

The chances of Whiteside/Alabi/Robinson contributing at the next level seem exponentially higher than that of Pape Sy