Admin Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I highly doubt we'll cut Ayón with our lack of depth at the C position. Please stop with the suggestions of playing Ivan as a C as that's an awful idea. I know we all like Ivan but he's disgustingly undersized at C and gets beaten too easily on the boards and can't stop other C's from scoring. I think Millsap would actually be better as he's got some sense of how to block a shot and great timing. Ivan just doesn't have that. I'm not advocating Millsap at C either though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BrazilianHawk Posted January 23, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) IVAN would be our PF backup. Brand is doing VERY well as our backup Center, no need to mess with that.And I'm prettty sure Mike would come up as a backup SF. Can't defend anyone tho, SF or PF. Teague / Mack /SchröderKK / Lou / JenkinsCarroll / ScottMillsap / IVAN(Horf) / Pero / Brand / Ayón Edited January 23, 2014 by BrazilianHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted January 23, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Welp! (I'm not yelling at ex-NBAer Christian, just saying, "Oh. Well!") Speaking of flipping the Bird Rights... http://www.oneworldsports.com/blogs/ivan-johnson-cut-cba-after-outburst/ More and more details are coming out about Ivan Johnson’s recent removal from the Zhejiang Bulls. The power forward had been averaging 25.8 points and 10 assists per game, but one very public outburst during a game cost Johnson his job and voided the remaining salary owed to him.In a statement quietly released in the buildup to the CBA All-Star Weekend, the Bulls said Johnson was released because of “verbal abuse,” “insulting gestures toward Zhejiang’s coaches” and “damaging team morale.” Mike Harris, who played for the Utah Jazz earlier this season, will take Johnson’s place.Things purportedly came to a head in a recent game with regional rivals, the Guangsha Lions. Johnson allegedly refused to shake hands with players before the game and then argued with teammate Warrick Spencer in the game itself. Zhejiang’s coaching staff was also angered by Johnson not paying attention in huddles and ignoring instructions. And then midway through the fourth quarter, Johnson gave Bulls head coach Yang Xuezeng the middle finger.Johnson, who has been dubbed “Ivan the Terrible” and “Big Baby” by the Chinese media, tried to make amends the following day, including apologizing to Yang. But the decision to cut the American had already been made.This is not the first time Johnson has had behavior issues in the CBA. While playing for the Qingdao Eagles in 2011, Johnson made his head coach cry during a particularly heated argument. Johnson was cut shortly afterwards and replaced by former Seattle SuperSonics and Orlando Magic center Olumideye Oyedeji.Now a free agent, Johnson will return to America to try for an NBA job. The Atlanta Hawks are rumored to be interested. Should he not find an NBA team, however, it’s unlikely that Johnson returns to China again, as this is the second time he has been released by a Chinese team before the end of the season. Johnson is also banned for life from Korean basketball after giving the middle finger to a referee in a KBL Finals game. So, there's that. ~lw3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Call Rodman. North Korea looks like the only place left for Ivan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Anyone find it kind of odd that Ivan started "acting out" a week after it was published several NBA teams had interest in him? Yeah I know it is Ivan we are talking about but still.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BrazilianHawk Posted January 24, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 That sux. Definitely not the behavior DF and Bud would want from him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ivan was a good boy here though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Anyone find it kind of odd that Ivan started "acting out" a week after it was published several NBA teams had interest in him? Yeah I know it is Ivan we are talking about but still.... Yeah Blunt...it all sounds pretty fishy to me . We will see soon enough, if it wasn't planned it's unlikely any NBA team will make him an offer, if it was Ivan will get an offer and they will downplay his "behavior". I noticed there was no actual physical violence mentioned. You would expect a crazy person to get in an on-court fight now and then. Edited January 24, 2014 by DJlaysitup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarHampton Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wait, wait, wait, ... How had I never heard before that Johnson made his old head coach cry?!? Like, an adult coach??? How is that even possible? Did he take his lunch money, too?I love Ivan, he's all heart. But that's sort of why I'd be surprised to see DF pick him up. Seems like he avoids potential offcourt distractions, lockerroom problems, and character issues. But it would be fun, eh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suiluap Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well, he's Ivan. Enough said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not ferry material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted January 24, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Just noting, there's one other former member of the 2012-13 Hawks who was released from the CBA last month. I can only assume he's sane and available. http://www.court-side.com/news/blog/johan-petro-departs-guangsha-lions/ Tweet Added - Refresh Page to see it live!If you don't see the Tweet here AFTER REFRESHING PAGE, then it wasn't entered correctly. Please edit and try again.Important: If the Tweet doesn't load, please refresh the page before editing the Tweet as it may need to refresh to parse properly ~lw3 Edited January 24, 2014 by lethalweapon3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'd much rather have Petro, though it does worry me he got cut by a CBA team. The CBA is where marginal players become All Stars. As for Ivan, I don't think he was trying to get waived. He apologized to the coach, and I think that means he knows he's running out of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthepureshooter Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well, he's Ivan. Enough said.I've been trying to upload this gif for the past couple days but didn't feel like booting up my computer. Lol funny and marketable antics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Welp! (I'm not yelling at ex-NBAer Christian, just saying, "Oh. Well!") Speaking of flipping the Bird Rights... http://www.oneworldsports.com/blogs/ivan-johnson-cut-cba-after-outburst/ So, there's that. ~lw3 Welp! (I'm not yelling at ex-NBAer Christian, just saying, "Oh. Well!") Speaking of flipping the Bird Rights... http://www.oneworldsports.com/blogs/ivan-johnson-cut-cba-after-outburst/ So, there's that. ~lw3 Ivan is that dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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