Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 16, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Knicks just recently waived Amar'e Stoudemire and he was averaging 12 points/6.8 rebounds/.9 blocks playing 24 minutes per game this season with a per of 19.4. Surely he is an upgrade over Pero right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Knicks just recently waived Amar'e Stoudemire and he was averaging 12 points/6.8 rebounds/.9 blocks playing 24 minutes per game this season with a per of 19.4. Surely he is an upgrade over Pero right? i think he would be, but I wonder if he doesn't have a reputation of being a "black hole." If he can't/won't pass out of a double team, then he might be a bad fit. I'd certainly rather have him than Ray Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 16, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Defensive downgrade from Pero. Bud should be evaluating him, Sanders, Allen and others for fit and potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 16, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He would be a good addition possibly. Unstoppable down low. Injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Kick the tires. Due diligence... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 16, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I thought about Sanders as stated in other thread. There's also KG and Brook Lopez... if we had the capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Those injuries really prevented him from becoming really special with the Knicks. I don't know if we should look for him to take minutes away from Mike Scott though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitte Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He would give us quality minutes as a back up big but I think he will sign with Mavericks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He's done. I'd rather have Garnett or take a chance on Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 16, 2015 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He's done. I'd rather have Garnett or take a chance on Sanders. Garnett's numbers are worse and sanders is a pothead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted February 16, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He is Done witha capital D!! He doesn't play d, he doesn't have an impact offensive game anymore and he is extremely injury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Why don't we just end this thread with the reminder that Bud just said the reason he traded Payne was because there already weren't enough minutes to go around for the bigs we have. We're not adding another to the mix; not unless you think Bud was just lying and it was all because Payne just sucks (not likely). I can't see that changing unless it's a situation just too good to be true and we simply can't pass it up. That's not Amare, BTW. If we add someone it's likely going to be a wing, like Horford said we need. Edited February 16, 2015 by RandomFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why don't we just end this thread with the reminder that Bud just said the reason he traded Payne was because there already weren't enough minutes to go around for the bigs we have. We're not adding another to the mix; not unless you think Bud was just lying and it was all because Payne just sucks (not likely). I can't see that changing unless it's a situation just too good to be true and we simply can't pass it up. That's not Amare, BTW. If we add someone it's likely going to be a wing, like Horford said we need. Wonder if this is just a smoke screen. You'd think that Stod would be motivated to play on a winner this late in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 16, 2015 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Why don't we just end this thread with the reminder that Bud just said the reason he traded Payne was because there already weren't enough minutes to go around for the bigs we have. We're not adding another to the mix; not unless you think Bud was just lying and it was all because Payne just sucks (not likely). I can't see that changing unless it's a situation just too good to be true and we simply can't pass it up. That's not Amare, BTW. If we add someone it's likely going to be a wing, like Horford said we need. Pero is not a good player so yes we could stand to upgrade the front court. Stoudemire offers a dimension that Pero just simply can't provide. So sorry, we don't have the number #1 big man rotation in the league and if Pero plays like he did in last year's playoffs, we will be in serious trouble even in the 1st round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Pero is not a good player so yes we could stand to upgrade the front court. Stoudemire offers a dimension that Pero just simply can't provide. So sorry, we don't have the number #1 big man rotation in the league and if Pero plays like he did in last year's playoffs, we will be in serious trouble even in the 1st round I think Bud has too much faith in Pero is as a backup and I'm afraid that it's going to cost the Hawks in the playoffs. Bud's faith and loyality to older players reminds me of Bobby Cox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Amare doesn't play defense and he's pretty weird. Hunger questionable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Pero is not a good player so yes we could stand to upgrade the front court. Then take it up with Coach Bud. He's the one that loves Pero. "He's so unique," said Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer. "He does things, you just go back and watch film and usually it's brilliant. It's not necessarily anything that we've told him. He's just a really, really smart, instinctive player, including the defensive end. You go back and watch tape of him and learn a lot." "Offensively, I think people probably pick up and see the stuff he does on that end of the court with the passing and the screening," said Budenholzer. "He's a great screen setter. I think people probably don't appreciate that when guys come open, it took a great screen to get that guy open.” “Driving it and passing it and pump-fakes,” Budenholzer said, “there's so many small things that I think when you add them up, they may not be in the box score, but I know his teammates appreciate it and most of the time I appreciate it. Sometimes I get frustrated with it [laughs]. I have to remind myself he's brilliant." The stats back it up. Among players with at least 400 minutes this season, Antić has the league's best per-minute plus-minus of any player not on the Golden State Warriors (per Basketball-Reference). Edited February 17, 2015 by RandomFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 17, 2015 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Then take it up with Coach Bud. He's the one that loves Pero. We are not trading Pero for Stoudemire! We are just adding Stoudemire as another big man option! Pero doesn't play every game and many times when he is terrible, he is hurting the team..Those are the times you can insert someone else like a former all star who still shoots 55% from the field and gets you 20/11 per 40 minutes with a TS of 58.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwentdown2GA Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Looks like it's pretty much a done deal to the Mavs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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