Brotha2ThaNite Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm so sick of people saying he needs to develop a 3pt game. Why? He's an old school BIG. Let him be! Let him develop a nice 17 foot jumper that will keep him closer to the rim, racking up rebs, put backs and block. Why can't he just be that old school PF? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 count the number of 3pt and jumper makes. he already has the game, it just isn't used. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Boooooo!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Boo lol I guess we will be close to last in the league as for as rebounding goes because they will be taking our best guy out near the three-point line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted July 10, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Brotha2ThaNite said: Boo lol I guess we will be close to last in the league as for as rebounding goes because they will be taking our best guy out near the three-point line But shooting three's has nothing to do with defensive rebounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, aali34 said: But shooting three's has nothing to do with defensive rebounding It does with offensive rebounding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 However he develops think Collins will be starting no later than midseason and if Bud continues his misguided approach of giving Moose minutes at C then Collins may start from day one. He is going to get a lot of minutes as a rookie no matter our coach's aversion to going that route. Feel that Moose should be behind Collins at PF already and we need to bring in a body for C which could be Reed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted July 10, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 He seems to have a decent mid range ... work on the D instead of worrying about the 3 pointers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted July 10, 2017 Moderators Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 He's my new Britney! ~lw3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Regardless he will develop a 3 pt shot. When DH8 starts working on a 3 it is a thing. He isn't big enough to make his living exclusively in the paint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted July 10, 2017 Moderators Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, thecampster said: count the number of 3pt and jumper makes. he already has the game, it just isn't used. I remember Dwight having workouts vids of him draining free throws too... Let's see Collins do that in a game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Personally I'm very ok with Collins crashing the hell out of the offensive glass. Just let Moose keep up the pansy end of things, he can hit the threes for us from the PF because he is always out there anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP61 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 You have to shoot to survive in the NBA today. If he went completely old school he'd be cutting his value in half. If you are a big that can shoot and do nothing else you already get a decent contract. If you are a big that can't shoot at all, nobody wants you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted July 10, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Looks like it will be more than just shooting three's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 hours ago, Brotha2ThaNite said: I'm so sick of people saying he needs to develop a 3pt game. Why? He's an old school BIG. Let him be! Let him develop a nice 17 foot jumper that will keep him closer to the rim, racking up rebs, put backs and block. Why can't he just be that old school PF? Chris Bosh 2.0. That's who he reminds me of. Bosh dominated with his midrange shot and didn't start moving out to 3 until late in his career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ATLien_ Posted July 10, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Dolfan23 said: Chris Bosh 2.0. That's who he reminds me of. Bosh dominated with his midrange shot and didn't start moving out to 3 until late in his career. It's interesting that Bosh and Al Horford picked up threes later in the career. I haven't looked at the numbers, but using the eye test I would say they both became worse players because of the three. I'm sure they spaced the floor better, but neither was as impactful as before the 3. They both became really soft too; Kevin Love the same. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted July 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, ATLien_ said: It's interesting that Bosh and Al Horford picked up threes later in the career. I haven't looked at the numbers, but using the eye test I would say they both became worse players because of the three. I'm sure they spaced the floor better, but neither was as impactful as before the 3. They both became really soft too; Kevin Love the same. bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillent Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, ATLien_ said: It's interesting that Bosh and Al Horford picked up threes later in the career. I haven't looked at the numbers, but using the eye test I would say they both became worse players because of the three. I'm sure they spaced the floor better, but neither was as impactful as before the 3. They both became really soft too; Kevin Love the same. Neither one of them poses his type of athleticism and Collins is adding all of this to his game early and is intelligent enough to pick his spots/read the defense. Both Bosh and Horford were/are average athletes and don't like playing physical so staying away from the paint for them after they picked up that shot was a natural reaction. Collins likes to go to the hole and show off his athleticism so I don't think he will have the same problem. What makes Durant so deadly and valuable is he is a freaky long athlete that can slash,yam and shoot the ball. It's almost a slap in the face to compare Bosh or Horford to Josh and I want even mention Kevin (oops). Of course I'm not saying he is Durant either but just trying to find a more comparable style to Collins game after adding the outside shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post SalvorMallow Posted July 11, 2017 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, sillent said: Neither one of them poses his type of athleticism and Collins is adding all of this to his game early and is intelligent enough to pick his spots/read the defense. Both Bosh and Horford were/are average athletes and don't like playing physical so staying away from the paint for them after they picked up that shot was a natural reaction. Collins likes to go to the hole and show off his athleticism so I don't think he will have the same problem. What makes Durant so deadly and valuable is he is a freaky long athlete that can slash,yam and shoot the ball. It's almost a slap in the face to compare Bosh or Horford to Josh and I want even mention Kevin (oops). Of course I'm not saying he is Durant either but just trying to find a more comparable style to Collins game after adding the outside shot. Bosh was specifically asked to move away from his post game by Spoelstra to give space to James and Wade, neither of whom could shoot 3s. If you read interviews, Bosh was always complaining about it. Can't say the same about Al. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 11, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Horf was effective just being the pick and pop producer that he was. So, there's no need to have JC doing anything more than that in this offense. But then, he's so young, hell, if you're going to try to help older guys like Horf or Sap expand their range so that they become even more dangerous, I have no clue why you wouldn't work with JC. However.... it might not top the priority list of things to work with him on. Maybe it waits a year or tow or three. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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