Has our new coach mentioned anything about how we are going run our offense?

[JTB]

Haven’t heard from Coach LP about what offensive system he plans to bring to Atlanta ....everything seems to be about defense which is fine and all but what offense he brings and how he develops players within that system is way more important than defense !

been saying it for a while...we need to be able to score with at the least most teams before we start worrying too much about defense. Last I checked the Cavs have been getting to the finals despite horrible team defense as the years went on and they steady trending down in defense including their King who’s defensive numbers have taken a major fall since going back to Cleveland  .

Moral of the story or point I’m going to continue to make is Regardless of how elite Coach LP may make this defense, the name of the game is putting the damn ball in the basket and I need to hear a lot more about what type of offensive system this team plans to have.

[JayBirdHawk]

Nope. Not much.

Most I've heard is he wants Collins to up his 3pt attempts with good efficiency.

 

[Buzzard]

8 minutes ago, JTB said:

Haven’t heard from Coach LP about what offensive system he plans to bring to Atlanta ....everything seems to be about defense which is fine and all but what offense he brings and how he develops players within that system is way more important than defense !

been saying it for a while...we need to be able to score with at the least most teams before we start worrying too much about defense. Last I checked the Cavs have been getting to the finals despite horrible team defense as the years went on and they steady trending down in defense including their King who’s defensive numbers have taken a major fall since going back to Cleveland  .

Moral of the story or point I’m going to continue to make is Regardless of how elite Coach LP may make this defense, the name of the game is putting the damn ball in the basket and I need to hear a lot more about what type of offensive system this team plans to have.

We need to know what kind of players we have first. Our starting PG, SG, and Center could all be different this season. What does that mean to me? We can't run a fast break or spread offense without shooters and players who are fast up and down the floor. 

He has not really talked much about defensive scheme; only defensive effort. We don't have one rim protector or lock down wing on our team. Until we do, effort is all we can expect. And before someone says spouts Bazemore, I mean lock down like Klay Thompson, Paul George, or the non wing who harasses wings Draymond Green

[hazer]

I remember reading about him saying up tempo pace and space, getting everyone in really good shape for running. Melvin Hunt was hired as lead assistant, and has an offensive philosophy of pace/space/passing.

[hazer]

22 minutes ago, JTB said:

Haven’t heard from Coach LP about what offensive system he plans to bring to Atlanta ....everything seems to be about defense which is fine and all but what offense he brings and how he develops players within that system is way more important than defense !

been saying it for a while...we need to be able to score with at the least most teams before we start worrying too much about defense. Last I checked the Cavs have been getting to the finals despite horrible team defense as the years went on and they steady trending down in defense including their King who’s defensive numbers have taken a major fall since going back to Cleveland  .

Moral of the story or point I’m going to continue to make is Regardless of how elite Coach LP may make this defense, the name of the game is putting the damn ball in the basket and I need to hear a lot more about what type of offensive system this team plans to have.

 

3 minutes ago, hazer said:

I remember reading about him saying up tempo pace and space, getting everyone in really good shape for running. Melvin Hunt was hired as lead assistant, and has an offensive philosophy of pace/space/passing.

I’m assuming Schlloyd will be focusing on D while Hunt will basically be the OC. 

[bleachkit]

We are going to be Houston Rockets East. Threes, threes, and more threes. And if the threes aren't falling, keep shooting 'em until they do.

[Buzzard]

7 hours ago, bleachkit said:

We are going to be Houston Rockets East. Threes, threes, and more threes. And if the threes aren't falling, keep shooting 'em until they do.

Depends on who we have. I think Prince, Bazemore, Dorsey, and Moose can hold their own in threes. No one else on our team really stands out. Collins most efficient full month was April and he only averaged one three point attempt a game during that span.

Unless we get a Curry or Thompson type guard in the draft or free agency, I think we will be balanced offensively.

[Buzzard]

1 minute ago, Buzzard said:

Depends on who we have. I think Prince, Bazemore, Dorsey, and Moose can hold their own in threes. No one else on our team really stands out. Collins most efficient full month was April and he only averaged one three point attempt a game during that span.

Unless we get a Curry or Thompson type guard in the draft or free agency, I think we will be balanced offensively.

Collins most efficient Month was March, not April. One three point attempt a game and shot .605 from the field.

[Vol4ever]

10 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Nope. Not much.

Most I've heard is he wants Collins to up his 3pt attempts with good efficiency.

 

I haven't watched 1 minute of the playoffs this year.   Why would you want a very good inside player shootin 3s all the time.     The NBA is nothing more than a rec league now that is on tv. 

[Plainview1981]

11 hours ago, JTB said:

Haven’t heard from Coach LP about what offensive system he plans to bring to Atlanta ....everything seems to be about defense which is fine and all but what offense he brings and how he develops players within that system is way more important than defense !

been saying it for a while...we need to be able to score with at the least most teams before we start worrying too much about defense. Last I checked the Cavs have been getting to the finals despite horrible team defense as the years went on and they steady trending down in defense including their King who’s defensive numbers have taken a major fall since going back to Cleveland  .

Moral of the story or point I’m going to continue to make is Regardless of how elite Coach LP may make this defense, the name of the game is putting the damn ball in the basket and I need to hear a lot more about what type of offensive system this team plans to have.

Most defensive minded coaches have crappy offenses.

[Buzzard]

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Nope. Not much.

Most I've heard is he wants Collins to up his 3pt attempts with good efficiency.

 

And for Dennis to become a better shooter. Midrange was mentioned. He gets in the paint so much but does not have the lift to finish strong at the rim. A little stop and pop could not hurt him.

[sturt]

To the OP, my short answer is, "Why should he?"

My longer answer is, "Player development being the emphasis of this club for the next 2 years, his focus is on individual improvement in whatever ways he and his staff have mapped out as their objectives... since winning is of secondary importance (at best), and since offensive strategy is what you do in support of winning, offensive strategy is of secondary importance (at best)."

[JTB]

5 hours ago, Plainview1981 said:

Most defensive minded coaches have crappy offenses.

Unfortunately seems true in the nba...rare to get a coach both good offensively and defensively seems like

2 hours ago, sturt said:

To the OP, my short answer is, "Why should he?"

My longer answer is, "Player development being the emphasis of this club for the next 2 years, his focus is on individual improvement in whatever ways he and his staff have mapped out as their objectives... since winning is of secondary importance (at best), and since offensive strategy is what you do in support of winning, offensive strategy is of secondary importance (at best)."

Is this where we’ve gon? I mean I get we are tanking but even the 76ers knew what style Brett Brown was going to coach his team.

76ers likely didn’t go off of how Brett was going to coach his team based on their top picks but at least there was a plan.

if you’re saying there’s no plan, no scheme here but to develop players then we have already failed in a major way.

[sturt]

12 minutes ago, JTB said:

Is this where we’ve gon? I mean I get we are tanking but even the 76ers knew what style Brett Brown was going to coach his team.

76ers likely didn’t go off of how Brett was going to coach his team based on their top picks but at least there was a plan.

if you’re saying there’s no plan, no scheme here but to develop players then we have already failed in a major way.

My opinion is that it's not a priority at this point in the timeline, and though he's probably got it in his mind what he thinks he'll want to run, like @Buzzard suggested, it's likely contingent to some degree on who we draft. But truly, he doesn't really have to figure anything out for certain. Some HCs have a system, and you draft to fit the system. Other HCs' philosophy is to take the talent at-hand, and employ system that fits the talent best. I'd guess Pierce is more the latter than the former.

 

 

[hazer]

3 hours ago, sturt said:

To the OP, my short answer is, "Why should he?"

My longer answer is, "Player development being the emphasis of this club for the next 2 years, his focus is on individual improvement in whatever ways he and his staff have mapped out as their objectives... since winning is of secondary importance (at best), and since offensive strategy is what you do in support of winning, offensive strategy is of secondary importance (at best)."

 

51 minutes ago, JTB said:

Unfortunately seems true in the nba...rare to get a coach both good offensively and defensively seems like

Is this where we’ve gon? I mean I get we are tanking but even the 76ers knew what style Brett Brown was going to coach his team.

76ers likely didn’t go off of how Brett was going to coach his team based on their top picks but at least there was a plan.

if you’re saying there’s no plan, no scheme here but to develop players then we have already failed in a major way.

Schlloyd have both come out and actually stated they are going with an uptempo  “pace and space” style. Pierce even elaborated satung conditioning would be paramount because they plan to run. Improved conditioning will also help team D. There are also videos of head assistant Hunt stressing a pace/space/passing offensive philosophy. I’m assuming since Pierce is a defensive-minded specialist, Hunt will be the OC. Hawks plan on running, gunning, fast breaks, passing.

[Buzzard]

1 hour ago, sturt said:

My opinion is that it's not a priority at this point in the timeline, and though he's probably got it in his mind what he thinks he'll want to run, like @Buzzard suggested, it's likely contingent to some degree on who we draft. But truly, he doesn't really have to figure anything out for certain. Some HCs have a system, and you draft to fit the system. Other HCs' philosophy is to take the talent at-hand, and employ system that fits the talent best. I'd guess Pierce is more the latter than the former.

 

 

Pierce does not have the luxury of a choice right now. We are not like Houston where D'Antonio just waltzed into a perfect storm for his system. Key players already there and key players added for him until they got it right. Speaking of which, I do not see him as a very good adapter outside his system. In both LA and New York, his system did not work out all that great.

[JTB]

1 hour ago, sturt said:

My opinion is that it's not a priority at this point in the timeline, and though he's probably got it in his mind what he thinks he'll want to run, like @Buzzard suggested, it's likely contingent to some degree on who we draft. But truly, he doesn't really have to figure anything out for certain. Some HCs have a system, and you draft to fit the system. Other HCs' philosophy is to take the talent at-hand, and employ system that fits the talent best. I'd guess Pierce is more the latter than the former.

 

 

That’s a very good way to look at it I must admit!

i guess I’m use to a coach knowing what he wants to do once he comes in. But this is the first time we are actually having a roster overhaul in 10 years therefore my judgement on things are a little cloudy but again good points and it makes sense.

[JTB]

38 minutes ago, hazer said:

 

Schlloyd have both come out and actually stated they are going with an uptempo  “pace and space” style. Pierce even elaborated satung conditioning would be paramount because they plan to run. Improved conditioning will also help team D. There are also videos of head assistant Hunt stressing a pace/space/passing offensive philosophy. I’m assuming since Pierce is a defensive-minded specialist, Hunt will be the OC. Hawks plan on running, gunning, fast breaks, passing.

If this is the case I guess I’m ok with that as long as the passing is extremely emphasized....I hope they understand how to teach spacing well enough to implement it with the players we get.

saying it is one thing teaching it is another.

[sturt]

18 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

D'Antonio

That's Mister Mike D'Antoniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. By now you'd think people beyond us Marshall grads would know. 

 

[KB21]

What kind of offense will Atlanta have?

A bad one that turns the ball over a lot, and young players that end up trying to play hero ball rather than play within a system.

It's going to be a terrible season and a VERY LONG rebuild.