Hawks Offseason Officially Starts!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

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Where they finished the year

Atlanta finishes the season 20-47, the fourth-worst record in the NBA, which means the Hawks will have a 12.5 percent chance at the No. 1 overall pick when the draft lottery is held. Only Golden State, Cleveland and Minnesota finished with a worse record than the Hawks.

What’s unfortunate is Cleveland and Minnesota played fewer games than Atlanta, which gave both teams a difference of a few hundredths of a percentage point in terms of having a worse winning percentage. That slight difference means the Hawks won’t have a 14 percent chance at the No. 1 pick and a higher floor for where they could fall on lottery night. As of now, the lowest the Hawks could pick is eighth, and there’s a 2.2 percent chance of that happening.

 

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Players hurt/helped by the end of the season

Cam Reddish had improved offensively every single month since his horrid start in October.......It was clear Reddish was finding his groove and getting more comfortable each game.

De’Andre Hunter also was playing the best basketball of his rookie season.....after the All-Star break, Hunter averaged 13.1 points and 7.6 rebounds per game while shooting better than 40 percent from 3......

Collins is negatively impacted by the season being over. He’s looking for a large contract this offseason, and the question becomes: Will the Hawks give him one even though he played in only 41 games? The stats he amassed in half a season are tremendous.....

Vince Carter not having a proper send-off for his Hall of Fame career ....

Trae Young.....with his usage rate being so high  — the fewer non-meaningful minutes he can play, the better it is for his future and the Hawks’ future.

 

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First order of business in the offseason

The draft is the most important event of the offseason for most rebuilding teams. Depending on the lottery results, what the Hawks decide to do with their pick is one of the most fascinating storylines for this organization during the next few months. Will the Hawks decide to just keep their pick and add another young player to their already inexperienced roster? Or will they try to trade their pick in some sort of package for future assets or an established player?

 

[Vol4ever]

It definitely is crucial.  On the FA front there is not much available to the Hawks in the star arena but a few FA journeyman out there.  The draft will be interesting.  I'm just hoping Capella is healthy to start the season.  

[Buzzard]

14 hours ago, Vol4ever said:

It definitely is crucial.  On the FA front there is not much available to the Hawks in the star arena but a few FA journeyman out there.  The draft will be interesting.  I'm just hoping Capella is healthy to start the season.  

I don't think there is a lot available on the trade front right now. Maybe a small market team like the Timberwolves starts feeling the financial burden more, but I am not holding my breath.

[JayBirdHawk]

16 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

I don't think there is a lot available on the trade front right now. Maybe a small market team like the Timberwolves starts feeling the financial burden more, but I am not holding my breath.

I think it all comes down to what the Cap and more importantly the Luxury Tax threshold will be in determining if teams will trade off players under contract strictly due to financial considerations.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

 

 

[Thomas]

18 hours ago, Vol4ever said:

I'm just hoping Capella is healthy to start the season. 

So much of my Armchair GMing is based around that foot's health. Like our starting five if Capela is good to go when we start back. That lineup includes Cam at the two for me.  

[AHF]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

So much of my Armchair GMing is based around that foot's health. Like our starting five if Capela is good to go when we start back. That lineup includes Cam at the two for me.  

Absent some major move this summer, I think that starting lineup has to be:

Trae

Cam

Hunter

JC

Capela

Very excited to see them play together.

[Thomas]

Just now, AHF said:

Absent some major move this summer, I think that starting lineup has to be:

Trae

Cam

Hunter

JC

Capela

Very excited to see them play together.

That is what I am expecting and like the defensive implications of Cam, Hunter and Clint out there at the same time.

[macdaddy]

All i got to say is these guys better be working out.   I know they wont' be in game shape but we should see some fitness and strength when they come back. 

[bleachkit]

17 minutes ago, AHF said:

Absent some major move this summer, I think that starting lineup has to be:

Trae

Cam

Hunter

JC

Capela

Very excited to see them play together.

Summer? I think you mean fall.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

I mentioned teams getting together for joint practises/scrimmages.

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Most of the eight teams whose seasons have ended -- including Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota and New York -- are pushing to engage in joint practices as ramp-ups for regional summer leagues in August, sources said. For example, the Pistons and Cavaliers have discussed the possibility of joint practices as a prelude to a mini-pod of games, sources said.

Among the front-office ideas presented to the NBA, sources said:

A combination of voluntary and mandatory workouts for two weeks in July.

Regional minicamps in August that include joint practices for a period of days and approximately three televised games.

Organized team activities (OTAs) for mid-September.

Teams want an opportunity for training camps to start seven to 10 days earlier for the 2020-21 season for those teams left out of Orlando.

The Orlando non-participants are pushing the NBA for televised coverage of the proposed mini-summer-league event

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[NBASupes]

The Hawks will have a lot of money to spend and all should go to amassing the best bench in the NBA. 

The draft should land us a player who can play a key role off the bench.

Atlanta needs to decide, is it best to wait this John thing out till next offseason where we have less options but we at least know what we got and need a lot more than right now or do we flip him for a top 5 pick to GS and draft another key young role player with a controllable contract and go all in on signing a PF in free agency.

Asumming John is traded, if we draft Toppin or Okongwu, do you look at just signing Paul Millsap or Marcus Morris who can start immediately with plus impact. Especially Sap who has plus plus impact. 

What happens if Atlanta gets the #1 pick, is it Edwards or bust. I think it is. Obviously, you should consider others including my tier 3.5 guys like Ball and Toppin as well as others but ability to add another wing like Edwards, especially an extremely talented scoring one which we lack off the bench if Cam is moved to the starters could help us a ton. 

Atlanta has options but the goal is to really shore up that bench. We literally got just 7 players. Trae, Cam, Hunter, Collins, Capela, Huerter, Dedmon. Two potential Gleague guys who could be contributing players in 2021-22 in Bruno and Goodwin.

We got 6 spots. We need to add the best players possible for our system and style of personnel for those six spots in free agency. 

That should change everything for us.

We need depth, a lot of depth, this draft and free agency class are critical. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by NBASupes

[kg01]

Ayiyi ...

Effectively trading John for Toppin would be such a Sacramento/Knick/Suns move.

[NBASupes]

22 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Ayiyi ...

Effectively trading John for Toppin would be such a Sacramento/Knick/Suns move.

Or Magic/Penny, Or Bulls/Pippen move if it's a Suns move Suns/Nash

Edited June 6, 2020 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Asumming John is traded, if we draft Toppin or Okongwu, do you look at just signing Paul Millsap or Marcus Morris who can start immediately with plus impact. Especially Sap who has plus plus impact. 

Staaaaap!

No.

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Or Magic/Penny, Or Bulls/Pippen move if it's a Suns move Suns/Nash

Toppin is none of those guys.

[NBASupes]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

Staaaaap!

No.

That's a damn good deal. I guess you think much higher of John than I do and that's why you are hell hath fire over this. If we can get Anthony and Toppin and sign Sap, that's an amazing big moves offseason. We just need to no one cares outside of Atlanta moves to be really good.

You really f***ing love John. I like him, to a point. Hell, I loved Joe to a point. When we overpaid for him, I was furious and I loved him. The only player I was ever pissed we didn't pay the max to was Horford but many including you didn't want him at that price no matter what. I did. So we see shit differently. That's fine but I see the shit I see as the shit I see. You do as well for you. That's cool but let's not knock each other for it. 

For me, Collins overpay would be worse than Wiggins. For you, you think he deserves a lot and what's wrong with the max. I don't see him as impactful, just a stat guy on a bad team who's impact is best in a grouping than as a best player or best of players. He needs to be someone 3rd or 4th best player no matter what. That's not a max cat in ANY WAY if his defense is just below average at best and he can't defend outside of the paint well. 

For you, you see the stats, the age, and you see where he started. You just see things completely sunny and you assume the rest will come. That's fine if that's your take but its not mines at all. 

We see this differently. Even Toppin we see differently. I see an potential offensive monster at the 4. I don't know what you see but it's not what I see. I see Sap as an impact player for 24 mpg. I don't know what you see but that's what I see

[bleachkit]

If Trae is your building block going forward. You need 4 versatile, skilled defenders around him to make up for his subpar defense. 

[kg01]

Toppin isn't a can't-miss guy.  Not even close.

And, no, I'm not Collins' #1 fan - preemptive strike

[NBASupes]

15 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Toppin isn't a can't-miss guy.  Not even close.

And, no, I'm not Collins' #1 fan - preemptive strike

Yes he is. He might not be a generational guy or even a clear #1 pick type of guy but he's damn sure a can't miss on offense. His offense is just too f***ing good and improvement trend speaks volumes. He's as much of a can't miss as Steph Curry was on that end for his position. 

Edited June 7, 2020 by NBASupes