Hawks DID SIGN BB (Bogdan Bogdanović) 4 years $72 million. (UPDATE)

[JayBirdHawk]

Great Read!

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

What's next for Bogi?

 

I concur with all 3 areas.plus rebounding.

[Peoriabird]

On 8/20/2021 at 8:24 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

What's next for Bogi?

 

I concur with all 3 areas.plus rebounding.

He has put himself into the conversation as one of the top shooting guards in all the NBA. It will be exciting to see what he does in his encore season with the Hawks.

Put himself in the conversation as the top shooting guard in the league???? This is crazy talk.  The guy is a role player period!  He ain't even better than the current rendition of Derrick Rose

[AHF]

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

This is crazy talk.  The guy is a role player period!  He ain't even better than the current rendition of Derrick Rose 

Not sure I agree that 22 points on .660 ts% to go with 4 boards and 4 assists is role player performance.  That was his healthy performance last season.

[Peoriabird]

Just now, AHF said:

Not sure I agree that 22 points on .660 ts% to go with 4 boards and 4 assists is role player performance.  That was his healthy performance last season.

John has better stats than that over a long period of time and some on this board think that he is a replacement level player not even worth Bogie's contract.  I won't mention any names though.

[AHF]

8 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

John has better stats than that over a long period of time and some on this board think that he is a replacement level player not even worth Bogie's contract.  I won't mention any names though.

Not me.

[niremetal]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

Put himself in the conversation as the top shooting guard in the league???? This is crazy talk.  The guy is a role player period!  He ain't even better than the current rendition of Derrick Rose

He put up 50/49/90 shooting numbers as a starter under Nate. He was the most efficient guard (not just shooting guard) in the whole league offensively over the last 6 weeks of last season other than Steph Curry and, unlike Steph, he was an above-average defender too. Calling him a role player is just being a hater.

Edited August 22, 2021 by niremetal

[Peoriabird]

24 minutes ago, niremetal said:

He put up 50/49/90 shooting numbers as a starter under Nate. He was the most efficient guard (not just shooting guard) in the whole league offensively over the last 6 weeks of last season other than Steph Curry and, unlike Steph, he was an above-average defender too. Calling him a role player is just being a hater.

Yall keep talking about the magical 6 weeks and not his career numbers nor his playoff numbers.  Those count too you know.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

Yall keep talking about the magical 6 weeks and not his career numbers nor his playoff numbers.  Those count too you know.

15 points, 3.5 boards, 3.5 assists 44% fg%, 39% 3pt% and 82% ft% plays in my book.  He is a fine starter and obvious upside playing with a better supporting cast as we saw last year.

You keep acting like he didn’t beast for us when healthy last year.

[niremetal]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

Yall keep talking about the magical 6 weeks and not his career numbers nor his playoff numbers.  Those count too you know.

Oh, you mean when he played his ass off even though he had a busted ankle and knee and still managed to be our only consistent offensive threat after Trae got hurt even though he could only really drive to his left? And while he led the league in playoffs steals through the end of the conference finals? Yeah, what a loser.

[Gray Mule]

His career, as a Hawk, counts the most, including what he did in the playoffs.  What he did before this happened with a different coach and different team mates.

Sure, that experience was what got him the $$$ contract.  What he has done here is how he is earning that $$$ contract money now.

He's one of ours and that's what matters now!

[Peoriabird]

11 hours ago, AHF said:

15 points, 3.5 boards, 3.5 assists 44% fg%, 39% 3pt% and 82% ft% plays in my book. 

This does not put him in the conversation as the best shooting guard in the league nor does it get him 1 all star vote.

[AHF]

2 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

This does not put him in the conversation as the best shooting guard in the league nor does it get him 1 all star vote.

I guess I’ll have to concede that he isn’t the best shooting guard in the league.  Shocking that we couldn’t get the best shooting guard in the league at his price and that a team wouldn’t match an offer to a restricted free agent who was the next MJ.  Sigh.  I guess I’ll have to give up on that.

(He is a quality starter - not an All-NBA player.)

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

I guess I’ll have to concede that he isn’t the best shooting guard in the league.  Shocking that we couldn’t get the best shooting guard in the league at his price and that a team wouldn’t match an offer to a restricted free agent who was the next MJ.  Sigh.  I guess I’ll have to give up on that.

(He is a quality starter - not an All-NBA player.)

I was just quoting the article that @JayBirdHawk agreed with. I also think that a lot of fans on this site overrate him in this manner.  I just thought it was absurd to write an article concluding that he was in the conversation of being the best shooting guard in the league.

[marco102]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

I was just quoting the article that @JayBirdHawk agreed with. I also think that a lot of fans on this site overrate him in this manner.  I just thought it was absurd to write an article concluding that he was in the conversation of being the best shooting guard in the league.

The article says he's in the conversation for being one of the best shooting guards in the league. Not the best.   It never said the best shooting guard.  That could mean top 10 shooting guards.  He was in the conversation for being a top 10 shooting guard last year in my opinion.  

Edited August 23, 2021 by marco102

[Peoriabird]

Just now, marco102 said:

The article says he's in the conversation for being one of the best shooting guards in the league, not the best.   It never said the best shooting guard.  That could mean top 10 shooting guards.  He was in the conversation for being a top 10 shooting guard last year in my opinion.  

You have to be at least an all star to be one of the best shooting guards in the league and I doubt that Bogie has ever received 1 vote during his career.

[Gray Mule]

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

You have to be at least an all star to be one of the best shooting guards in the league and I doubt that Bogie has ever received 1 vote during his career.

But he doesn't have to receive all star votes to be a top 10!  Just saying, "He ain't great by any means but, by golly, he's pretty good.."

[Peoriabird]

4 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

 "He ain't great by any means but, by golly, he's pretty good.."

Yeah you do have to be great to be one of the top shooting guards in the league.

[marco102]

8 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Yeah you do have to be great to be one of the top shooting guards in the league.

That's your specific definition and not sure why you are saying that's the definitive line of being one of the best.  Trae Young was voted the 11th best guard in the East by the players.  Does that mean he's not a top point guard?   Bogi got two All Star votes from the players so he def did receive some.

Fans			Players			Media
Season	Player	Votes	Rank		Votes	Rank		Votes	Rank		Score
2020-21	Bradley Beal	3,485,051	1		161	1		81	1		1.0
2020-21	Kyrie Irving	2,765,320	2		100	2		21	4		2.5
2020-21	James Harden	2,347,594	3		58	3		39	3		3.0
2020-21	Zach LaVine	1,500,979	4		58	3		4	5		4.0
2020-21	Jaylen Brown	1,401,416	5		49	5		50	2		4.2
2020-21	Trae Young	991,857	6		20	11		3	6		7.2
2020-21	Russell Westbrook	462,605	7		18	12		1	7		8.2
2020-21	Ben Simmons	366,887	11		38	6		1	7		8.8
2020-21	Fred VanVleet	431,769	10		26	7		0	9		41.0
2020-21	Collin Sexton	455,806	9		17	13		0	9		42.0
2020-21	Kyle Lowry	356,185	12		22	9		0	9		42.5
2020-21	Derrick Rose	460,049	8		8	18		0	9		42.8
2020-21	Malcolm Brogdon	163,014	15		21	10		0	9		44.2
2020-21	LaMelo Ball	299,068	13		14	15		0	9		44.5
2020-21	Jrue Holiday	91,969	20		23	8		0	9		46.2
2020-21	Seth Curry	133,502	16		9	17		0	9		46.5
2020-21	RJ Barrett	102,535	19		17	13		0	9		47.0
2020-21	Kemba Walker	113,775	17		6	20		0	9		47.8
2020-21	Tyler Herro	199,756	14		3	27		0	9		48.0
2020-21	Goran Dragić	113,122	18		4	23		0	9		49.0
2020-21	Terry Rozier	44,130	23		10	16		0	9		49.8
2020-21	Donte DiVincenzo	37,813	24		7	19		0	9		51.0
2020-21	Coby White	45,114	22		2	30		0	9		52.8
2020-21	Marcus Smart	84,708	21		1	38		0	9		54.2
2020-21	Bogdan Bogdanović	27,282	26		2	30		0	9		54.8
2020-21	Evan Fournier	22,712	30		2	30		0	9		56.8
2020-21	Joe Harris	25,321	27		1	38		0	9		57.2
2020-21	Cole Anthony	11,864	35		4	23		0	9		57.5
2020-21	Devonte' Graham	11,000	37		6	20		0	9		57.8
2020-21	Jaylen Adams	11,757	36		5	22		0

Edited August 23, 2021 by marco102

[Peoriabird]

I stand corrected although he received the same number of votes as Coby White