Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 15 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I get it, but we're always looking to the future for our youngs guys to take the next step. Since we drafted Trae, not one of our other lottery picks have come out the box ready to make some noise from day 1 like he did. Giannis has a 3+1 deal and will be 32 - that would be our window. Trae wouldn't even be 30 yet. [And I'm not saying we should, but I would get it if we did...I just think it'sa pipe dream though]. But again...it can't be just trade for Giannis and do nothing else with the roster. Definitely agree with this sentiment— the biggest thing about Giannis to me is I can see guys wanting to come here and play with him (moreso than Embiid). Could help a lot with the issues weve had signing quality vets and MLE guys. JoeLLLL on the other hand can barely stay on the court and has a loser mentality. Landry probably wouldnt want him anyways though because Embiid definitely does not have Hawks DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Final_quest Posted May 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 23 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: If we decide to go all in on Giannis, I will be at State Farm and excited, although that deal will make me nervous about the future. If we go all in for Joel Embiid, I will never forgive Landry. Similarly, if we traded Trae to SA for 4 picks and had a bunch of guys like Jalen, Sarr, and Reed Sheppard I would be excited and support. I also like the Trae, JJ, and Sarr trio if we go that route. Huge decisions in the next few weeks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted May 15 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 It's happening, it's happening..... Spoiler Ressler might pay the tax...sold off shares. Spoiler ...who am I kidding. I'll believe it when it happens 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theheroatl Posted May 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 Whatever is gonna happen we gonna know by June 27th thankfully... The trade deadline rumors from June until when Siakam was traded were HORRIBLE for me I was living in Pascal Anthony-Towns HELL 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Final_quest said: Similarly, if we traded Trae to SA for 4 picks and had a bunch of guys like Jalen, Sarr, and Reed Sheppard I would be excited and support. I also like the Trae, JJ, and Sarr trio if we go that route. Huge decisions in the next few weeks. Yeah, same here, we are in such a materially better spot due to some lucky ping pong balls. We’re in a great position and this offseason will largely dictate Landrys legacy as our GM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, Sothron said: The star in question is not KD Thank goodness! 3 hours ago, NekiEcko said: I agree with the sentiment from another site. Overthinking this situation isn't necessary; if Trae is unhappy, then the front office should respect his wishes and consider trading him. Big Trae supporter but this is so true if we overthink this!…gotta move carefully Landry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 (edited) 6 hours ago, REHawksFan said: I'd be fine with this trade if we don't give up the 1st pick. I don't think I'd want to do it if we do. That would be the sticking point for me. We could have: Trae / Bogi / Hunter / Giannis / OO Kobe / Daniels / Vit / Mo / Sarr Vit plus vets at the end of the bench PLayin team.. 6th seed at best.. Edited May 15 by terrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Final_quest said: Similarly, if we traded Trae to SA for 4 picks and had a bunch of guys like Jalen, Sarr, and Reed Sheppard I would be excited and support. I also like the Trae, JJ, and Sarr trio if we go that route. Huge decisions in the next few weeks. A Trae, JJ, Sarr trio is a great core to build off of moving forward. I love keeping Bogi and one of our centers around, as well as Bufkin, Krecji and Mo Geuye as versatile pieces on both ends of the floor. We know what Trae is. JJ is still a rising star talent and Sarr can be an elite big man even if never a superstar player. The versatility of JJ and Sarr upfront really helps Trae on both ends of the court. Add floor spacers, defense, and BBIQ around them and you have something. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 6 hours ago, bird_dirt said: I TOLD YOU!! I TOLD YOU!! What I say? Didn’t I say it Trae could ask the FO to trade the pick to get a star or to trade him if they don’t?! Didn’t I saw that?! Yeah I said that. I’ll take the doubters apologies off the air thank you very much. I speculated KD, but we’ll see. So, I’ll ask this again: would you rather have Trae + KD or Murray + Sarr ? Murray + Sarr.. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 6 hours ago, Sothron said: The star in question is not KD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 6 hours ago, Hawkish said: It’s Pascal Anthony-Towns. Is he a star? 5 hours ago, Hawkish said: I MIGHT consider KD for Hunter and Capela. That’s how little I value a diva. Now we're talking.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, JeffS17 said: lol those of us that weren't burying our head in the sand to all the reports and circumstantial evidence saw this coming. The question is not Trae+Giannis/Embiid versus Murray + Sarr, it's Murray + Sarr + JJ and a bunch of picks for flexibility, etc. We're not good enough to go all-in and completely mortgage our future. We'll be burning out in the first/second round for a few years then be in absolute purgatory when the aging star we trade for starts declining. Trae is 25 years old and imo in no position to make ultimatums for us to go all-in right now. If that's his ask, we need to trade him. If he was 30, I would have more sympathy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 2 hours ago, bird_dirt said: That’s what I’m thinking. We could put a decent package together with Sarr, JJ, plus whatever else we could throw in, but there will be other teams that could offer more. Yall like GIannis' game ALOT better than I do that's for sure.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 They arent trading Giannis in his prime for JJ and a complete gamble on a player like Sarr. If Giannis was truly on the block teams would give up the world for him, a much better package of picks than we could offer. Look what Rudy Gobert, Jrue Holiday, Paul George, Harden, KD fetched. Giannis is on a whole nother level. A team like OKC or Houston with all those picks would give up way more. If its Embiid than we just need to move on. No thanks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 16 minutes ago, terrell said: Yall like GIannis' game ALOT better than I do that's for sure.. The package is probably for AD the more I think about it. Giannis makes no sense to be available. Embiid, I hope, we wouldn't even entertain, plus Philly has no reason to trade him. AD makes sense to be available -- Lakers need a restart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bleachkit Posted May 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 24 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: The package is probably for AD the more I think about it. Giannis makes no sense to be available. Embiid, I hope, we wouldn't even entertain, plus Philly has no reason to trade him. AD makes sense to be available -- Lakers need a restart. I'm not selling the farm for AD. That's a non starter. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 I finally caught up to everything. I get it now. I would take the Spurs package for Trae and let DJM, JJ and Sarr be your core and surround them with a bunch of dawgs. No, DJM is not better than Trae. No he isn’t a superstar. But DJ for whatever reason has the strongest connection with JJ and by all means has been pushing him toward his potential. I think there are behind the scenes intangibles that he brings to the table that might be worth investing in as a leader and mentor to younger players. Adding youth to Trae has never been a good mix. If the right deal for a star is not there, Im okay with DJ as the vet PG leading a youth movement. Our core would be easier to build around. We would have a much tougher identity on the court. In the end, I want players who want to be here. No love lost. It’s all business. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: I finally caught up to everything. I get it now. I would take the Spurs package for Trae and let DJM, JJ and Sarr be your core and surround them with a bunch of dawgs. No, DJM is not better than Trae. No he isn’t a superstar. But DJ for whatever reason has the strongest connection with JJ and by all means has been pushing him toward his potential. I think there are behind the scenes intangibles that he brings to the table that might be worth investing in as a leader and mentor to younger players. Adding youth to Trae has never been a good mix. If the right deal for a star is not there, Im okay with DJ as the vet PG leading a youth movement. Our core would be easier to build around. We would have a much tougher identity on the court. In the end, I want players who want to be here. No love lost. It’s all business. Why do y'all keep saying Trae doesn't want to be here? He's telling them to put something around him to basically get us out the play-in. Didn't Murray demand a trade? Trae and JJ's relationship seemed to have grown last year. Murray did empower him under Nate who wanted everything to run through the guards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 Why is everyone thinking some big trade is going to go down and we are going to make wholesale changes to this team? That's most likely not going to happen. They may trade Murray for a player or two to make the team better. (I'm on the Devin Vassell train now). That'll probably be the only move they make besides drafting the number 1 pick. They may trade Clint or De'Andre, but that's probably not happening until the trade deadline. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Sothron Posted May 15 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 The source cleared me to reveal the name of the superstar. It is Giannis. I am not saying it is going to happen but it is being discussed and it depends on if Giannis wants to come to Atlanta. This is from my source and from @NBASupes source. It also leaves the option to trade for BI and the team would look roughly something like: Trae Bogi/Kobe Ingram/Hunter Giannis OO The longer version of what I've heard can come down to three options for our roster: The above option, the "Push All The Chips In" is what I call it. We will be a good team, no question, but with a scary future with no firsts for a long time. 2nd Option: We trade Murray and AJ to NO for BI and the Lakers 2025 unprotected first We keep Trae. We do NOT trade for Giannis. We use the #1 pick on Sarr. Team would be: Trae Bogi/Kobe Ingram/Hunter Sarr/either Capela or OO 3rd option: We blow it all up. SAS have offered 4, 8 and all our picks back for Trae. We move him. We keep the #1 pick. We move Murray not to the Pelicans but to the Pistons or another team I've been told not to mention that has picks/young guys. Roster would be: (this is my postulating at possible draft results) Reed Sheppard Bogi/Kobe Hunter/#8 pick in this draft Sarr/OO We have all our picks back as well as picks and young guys from moving Murray to either the Pistons or mystery team. Which option do you guys and gal prefer? I think the 3rd option is the best one but the 2nd option is more safe. The first option MIGHT win us a title...but then we'll be in purgatory for years with no draft picks. If someone can make a poll with these three options, please do so, you have my blessing. These are the three big scenarios the Hawks FO is discussing now and in the upcoming time to the draft. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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