Sund was right about Childress

[HawkItus]

After signing Josh Childress(notes) to a five-year, $33.5 million contract over the summer, the Phoenix Suns are unsuccessfully trying to push him on the trade markets, league executives said. Childress has averaged 5.2 points in 17 minutes per game- Yahoo Sports

Just giving the man his due.

[Buzzard]

Just giving the man his due.

Chilz can contribute off the bench but Houston's got so many wings he is done there. And yes I totally agree, bench players are not worth 35 million a year unless they have starter upside or are the one missing piece to a championship run. Sund made a good call not overpaying for him. Marvin is another story, but I can see how it would be hard to let two lottery picks just walk with no return.

[JohnnyCASH]

Chilz can contribute off the bench but Houston's got so many wings he is done there. And yes I totally agree, bench players are not worth 35 million a year unless they have starter upside or are the one missing piece to a championship run. Sund made a good call not overpaying for him. Marvin is another story, but I can see how it would be hard to let two lottery picks just walk with no return.

[BudBall]

Chilz can contribute off the bench but Houston's got so many wings he is done there. And yes I totally agree, bench players are not worth 35 million a year unless they have starter upside or are the one missing piece to a championship run. Sund made a good call not overpaying for him. Marvin is another story, but I can see how it would be hard to let two lottery picks just walk with no return.

Marion I want to play too.

Edited February 16, 2011 by ISOJoe

[Sothron]

I never understood the love affair some people here had with Chill. He was the slowest wing player I've ever seen and he had the ugliest looking set shot in NBA history. He can't create his own shot and his own jump shots literally take up enough to time just in his shooting stance to give defenders plenty of time to contest the shot. Very glad he's someone else's problem.

[Buzzard]

Sorry man, Phoenix. I have been reading and replying to both threads on Brooks and Chilz and my old age showed itself. Houston obviously does not have Chilz or anywhere near the wings as the Suns so maybe that would be a good place for Chilz lol

[JohnnyCASH]

Sorry man, Phoenix. I have been reading and replying to both threads on Brooks and Chilz and my old age showed itself. Houston obviously does not have Chilz or anywhere near the wings as the Suns so maybe that would be a good place for Chilz lol

:lol6:

[Buzzard]

Marion I want to play too.

35 mill over five years. OK man, so WE had to create two post to two cover mistakes in one post. Now besides pointing out my obvious mistakes and building up your post count, what is your opinion on Chilz. Or is that the only way you contribute, play, and build up your post count?

Edited February 16, 2011 by Buzzard

[JohnnyCASH]

35 mill over five years. OK man, so WE had to create two post to two cover mistakes in one post. Now besides pointing out my obvious mistakes and building up your post count, what is your opinion on Chilz. Or is that the only way you contribute, play, and build up your post count?

callllllm doooooooownnnnnn

[benhillboy]

Chillz was good for a nice dunk and rebound here and there, and I was always impressed with his baseline scoring game. He was a magician down there. Other than that though, I am also glad he isn't our problem. My employer is a Grecian and says they treat their Pro Athletes like kings with considerably more amenities than here in the states, along with being paid more than any NBA team would give him. Not quite the same treatment being dangled as trade filler and relocating at a moment's notice.

[terrell]

Another BK and Woody DUD. Thank God we got lucky with Josh. Horford was an obvious pick, so I can give em too much credit for that one. Diaw, Marvin, Shellhead, Acie, Salim, Solo, etccc. Wow! At least Sund got it right. He took Teague over Collison, Maynor, and Toney Douglass. lol! .

[Admin]

Another BK and Woody DUD. Thank God we got lucky with Josh. Horford was an obvious pick, so I can give em too much credit for that one. Diaw, Marvin, Shellhead, Acie, Salim, Solo, etccc. Wow! At least Sund got it right. He took Teague over Collison, Maynor, and Toney Douglass. lol! .

People like to say that we got lucky with Josh and that Horford was the obvious pick and I'm sorry but that's neither fair nor accurate.

If you consider the Josh pick to be a lucky one then you have to consider any picks that don't work out to be unlucky and not poor choices. Josh was seen as a guy with enormous potential but some thought he'd be the dud of the class and we took a chance on him anyway and maybe that's lucky but we still had the balls to take that chance when we could have easily taken Jameer Nelson, who coincidentally I was praying we'd take at that spot at the time. I mean he was if I remember correctly the NCAA player of the year or something like that wasn't he?

And in 2007 there was A LOT of pressure on us to take Mike Conley and Yi Jianlian was also hyped up big time for that 3rd spot and then there were many who thought that Joakim was a better prospect than Horford so it's really not accurate to say that he was the obvious pick.

[BudBall]

I still like him as a bench player, but they way overspent on him.

[DJlaysitup]

People like to say that we got lucky with Josh and that Horford was the obvious pick and I'm sorry but that's neither fair nor accurate.

Actually Dolfan...it's exactly accurate. Smoove was a second first round pick and an easy pick since he was a homeboy. We got lucky as h#ll. The kid couldn't do anything but dunk in his first two years in the league. Where we got lucky was - Smoove actually sees himself as a professional basketball player instead of a kid who got some money and just wanted to be a dumb assed semi rock star in the off season. He actually wants to be a top level NBA player and has worked on his game every year in the off season.

Nobody in Hawks management knew that this kid had this kind of dedication in his soul...they got lucky..pure and simple.

As far as Horford being a "no brainer"....he WAS a no brainer...I LOVE the pick...but any fool could see that he was the next best since we couldn't get Durrant.

[gsuteke]

35 mill over five years. OK man, so WE had to create two post to two cover mistakes in one post. Now besides pointing out my obvious mistakes and building up your post count, what is your opinion on Chilz. Or is that the only way you contribute, play, and build up your post count?

I think you guys should fight it out

:newspaper:

[AUhawksfan]

If Chills isn't able to be successfully with one of the best point guards in the game, then I'm even more pleased we didn't keep him.

As someone else mentioned, his baseline game is great but Nash is a pick and roll type so maybe he could get that going elsewhere. Other than that his shot doesn't allow him to create for himself, I could probably block that shot with its release at the high chest area. He has to be in the right offensive system to succeed.

[lethalweapon3]

Show of hands... if Chillz was re-signed here, would he be starting (as part of the "mini" lineup) by now?

~lw3

[Guest Walter]

Show of hands... if Chillz was re-signed here, would he be starting (as part of the "mini" lineup) by now?

~lw3

Good point and maybe, but for a player withOUT much POtential and a limited game, his salary/deal demands were simply too prohibitive.

W

[Diesel]

Show of hands... if Chillz was re-signed here, would he be starting (as part of the "mini" lineup) by now?

~lw3

I believe that Chillz would be starting and doing well with us. We run Motion. Part of Chillz' positivity was the fact that he could get in and work the baseline and find openings. He moved well without the ball. IN Phoenix, they are trying to use him as a three point specialist. That's what they want. He's not that. He's more a slasher.

[MaceCase]

In Phoenix they want him to be a player that can at least give them the threat of making a jumpshot. He has proven to be even more useless outside of 5 feet on the offensive end so they have relegated a 35million dollar player to the deep bench. I find it hard to excuse not playing a guy you've made that much of a financial commitment to on a team with one of the best PGs, shooters at every position other than him, and a coach that has zero issue going 10 deep without putting any fault on the player's deficiencies. Perhaps if he was 2 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier you can excuse them and praise his efficiency in the paint but to be a wing player that can't play outside of 5 feet or defend any of the myriad of positions that Marion (the guy they wanted him to be) could is just hard to swallow. If he can't make it in Phoenix's super tempo system then it's hard to imagine any system where his contract can be justified.

Edited February 17, 2011 by CrawfulToCrawesome