ZAZA ON THE MOVE

[QuantumHawkz]

Per NBA sources.. #Hawks not done dealing.. Working on trading Zaza for a veteran big man.

29 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

http://twitter.com/zachkleinwsb

[CWebb]

Ok good.- The way the Hawks are playing, I would take any trade right now...

But...

Am I the only one to think we're not deep enough at the SG and the SF position?

[JohnnyCASH]

Ok good.- The way the Hawks are playing, I would take any trade right now...

But...

Am I the only one to think we're not deep enough at the SG and the SF position?

wilkins held it down last night!!..but another vet sg wont hurt

Edited February 24, 2011 by marion706

[benhillboy]

Who could possibly want him?

[warcore]

I hope he's packaged with Marvin for Kaman... doesn't he expire next season? Isn't that what we want? A center and cap room for 2012?

[mrhonline]

Who could possibly want him?

Cleveland, IMHO.

[coachx]

I was wondering what was up with ZaZa not playing any last night.

Hmmmmm who are looking for centers ? Houston, NY, and who else ?

Edited February 24, 2011 by coachx

[Joker]

I doubt Marvin getting traded. We will probably have to offload him with Smoove in a packaged deal. The need for backup centers is epic in the NBA right now.

[WakaFlocka]

I hope he's packaged with Marvin for Kaman... doesn't he expire next season? Isn't that what we want? A center and cap room for 2012?

Yeah, that'd be great. Then Josh absolutely HAS to play the 3 and Damien is his only backup... And for Kaman? No thanks.

I'm not hoping for a whole lot in return for Zaza, I just hope whichever "veteran big" we're shooting for is actually serviceable unlike Zaza or Etan (and now Armstrong).

[mrhonline]

I wonder if Chris Andersen is a possibility.

Edited February 24, 2011 by mrhonline

[WakaFlocka]

I wonder if Chris Andersen is a possibility.

If we're going to go for any C on the Nugs roster right now, let's make it Movgoz and not Birdman. He's horrendously overrated.

[mrhonline]

If we're going to go for any C on the Nugs roster right now, let's make it Movgoz and not Birdman. He's horrendously overrated.

He's also obtainable, unlike Timo.

There's always Johan Petro. LOL.

[ATLNY7]

What about Nene?

[sturt]

If it's ZaZa solo, it doesn't make sense to think this is going to end up being all that meaningful. And yes, we're already down a SF, so I'm seriously scratching my head on this one. :doh:

[thecampster]

Cleveland, IMHO.

Cleveland could use him (and Marvin). Same with Milwaukee. But the Kaman trade makes the most sense.

Personally, I'd love a deal that nets us Bogut but I think that's just a pipe dream. Another possibility is Okafur. But in all those scenarios, adding Marvin or others to the mix is required and unfortunately next year's cap situation is a problem. Next year, right now, the Hawks have 64 million committed to just 7 players. Any multiplayer deal that brought us back 1 player or a player plus an expiring is not healthy.

This is JJ's contract and Jamal's non contract coming back to bite us. Keepers not under contract next year (and not included in the figure that is just 8 million short of the luxury tax are) Crawford, Wilkens, Armstrong, Collins, Sy. I'm not saying we keep them all but Marvin's 7.5 million and JJ's 18 million next year (combined) make up 47% of our current cap and 37% of the current luxury tax. That makes it very hard to get better or trade for someone. Trading 2 contracts for one would only magnify the cap problem. Best I can figure, we're about 4 million short of retaining Jamal as things stand (figuring Jamal gets 7.5-8 million next year from someone).

IMHO, the best answer is to use the 2013 first, Marvin/Zaza for Bogut and filler or Crawford, Marvin, Zaza for . But I can't see Milwaukee going for it. Best possible for Milwaukee I could come up with is something like this

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/5865623

they get younger, better but lose a franchise big man. We are swapping maggette from marvin in this deal and Zaza/craw for bogut...other is just filler. Now this could work but Milwaukee would want a pick and it would have to be 2013's now.

FYI, I'm not saying this is going to happen, I'm just pointing out how tricky JJ/Marvin's contracts are making things now.

[yungsta]

hopefully its someone decent and hes not 470615702785769 years old

[mrhonline]

hopefully its someone decent and hes not 470615702785769 years old

Lo Wright! Haha.

I would count on it being someone with a longer contract than Zaza and/or older. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense for the other team.

[Wretch]

If it's ZaZa solo, it doesn't make sense to think this is going to end up being all that meaningful. And yes, we're already down a SF, so I'm seriously scratching my head on this one. :doh:

Ditto.

[Dragitoff]

How about this.....

ZaZa Pachulia, Jamal Crawford and Josh Powell or Etan Thomas for Antawn Jamison, Parker, and Manny Harris

This only works if Cleveland is desperate to rid themselves of Jamison's contract. This does give them even more capspace this season and a serviceable center for this year and the next 2.

Hinrich/Teague/Sy

Johnson/Parker/Harris

Williams/Wilkins

Smith/Jamison/Powell

Horford/Collins/Armstrong

Replace Craw's bench scoring with Jamison, Parker, and Harris' . To me, that's a net improvement. You also land another large contract that expires after 2012 season.

[Vol4ever]

I hope he's packaged with Marvin for Kaman... doesn't he expire next season? Isn't that what we want? A center and cap room for 2012?

Never been much of a Kaman fan, but he looked pretty good last night after the Hawks game went off and I switched over. He is pretty mobile and he chewed Blale Griffin out one time!