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Yes Osh Smith didn't make the All Star team


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This! Does anybody watch the stupid allstar game anymore? I havent watched that crap for several years. Josh should have made the team period.

Thats why I don't really care its not even important. Hopefully Josh is striving for a Final's appearance more than a All Star Appearance

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That's complete bs! Especially when you've had players like Rasheed, Spreewell, and Marbury that have become allstars. Fans like you and Mobetta are the problem with our current fan base. You guys always try to rationalize the repeated hate our team gets around the league. The last time I checked, the Brady rule isn't in the NBA. Reputation is overrated in this league because good guys aren't winning games. You need players with attitude and heart to be successful. Continue sinking on your fisher price basketball goal and leave the observations to real fans of the game.

Settle down young fella. It's going to be okay. One day you might realize that what I mean is Josh's reputation as a player is that he's not always playing within the system and tries to do too much despite his inability and inconsistency. He was not left off the team by fans like myself. He was left off by coaches who coach NBA basketball and are trying to put together a team that they can coach and have the best chance to win with. Now I'll just assume you're mad one of your favorite players was snubbed and you didn't really mean to be so immature with your response.

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I don't understand how anyone can argue Josh should not be an All Star. His overall game is unique in the entire NBA. NO ONE in the league and I mean NO ONE on any given night can go out and put up the mind boggling stats and performances that Josh can. The fact he has some issues to his game is one thing but using that to justify forgetting all the insanely good things he does is absurd.

Also, I don't know where this inane "Osh Smith" got started but his name is Josh.

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Now, I do hate Smoove at times but this is a complete snub. How does Deng makes it over Smoove... Smoove has carried our team in some games with Horford being down. Without Smoove our team is meat. He is an emotional leader and the only one that SHOULD be an all-star as a Hawk IMO. Really unbelievable. Snubbed again, just like last season.... and the year prior.... SMH

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A compelling argument exists for Smith > Deng and Iggy.

You could also make a case for Smith > Hibbert and Pierce.

That said, his reputation for erratic play and eccentric behavior hurts him, no doubt about it. This is not his best season but he has played well and better for that matter than at least one of those named above.

This is not the first time he's been snubbed so I don't see how this is supposed to spur him to become the perfect version of Josh Smith that we would all like to see. He is a veteran at this point so we have to accept him, warts and all.

He is a hometown guy and a career Hawk so I have nothing but support for him.

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Here's the truth:

Josh is good enough to be an allstar this year. BUT.. coaches don't respect him. They don't respect him because their gameplan for defending Josh is back off and let him have the outside shot. If that is your gameplan for a player, then you're not really concerned about what he can do.

Now Josh's stats show what he can do. Everybody in the league knows that when he's focused, he's unstoppable. However, he's marred by inconsistency.

My problem is Luol Deng? Luol Deng?? This guy is nothing. He plays good defense but that about it. It's a big snubbing. Josh should go on a domination tour of the NBA, but I think he will think it's more about his three point shooting and try to prove that he can hit the shot.

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The reason Josh Smith didn't make the team is his reputation. If Josh wasn't notorious for making bone-headed plays way too often, didn't shoot as many jumpers and hadn't mailed it in in the playoffs 3 or 4 years ago where he just gave up and walked up the court, he would be an all-star. Your reputation matters when coaches are making these decisions. Josh Smith is regarded as a headcase and a bit of a malcontent. When he decides to play to his strengths and stop being a jump shooting point guard in a power forward's body, he will earn respect around the league. Until then, he is what he is....a headcase and coaches see it every year.

Here's the truth:

Josh is good enough to be an allstar this year. BUT.. coaches don't respect him. They don't respect him because their gameplan for defending Josh is back off and let him have the outside shot. If that is your gameplan for a player, then you're not really concerned about what he can do.

Now Josh's stats show what he can do. Everybody in the league knows that when he's focused, he's unstoppable. However, he's marred by inconsistency.

My problem is Luol Deng? Luol Deng?? This guy is nothing. He plays good defense but that about it. It's a big snubbing. Josh should go on a domination tour of the NBA, but I think he will think it's more about his three point shooting and try to prove that he can hit the shot.

These two posts are the most sensible things said in this thread. Josh Smith should be an All-Star. He's been my favorite player for years, but he's not playing fully to his strengths and has a reputation. It would be one thing if it were the fans or the media selecting him. But the people who snubbed him are people that have played the game, know the game, and dictate the game. These same people know how to play against him and they run the same plan night in and night out.

Does he deserve to be in there over certain players?

HELL F*** YES.

But the point some people are making has nothing to do with talent and production. This is about a player that should be leading this team to domination....but is playing a game that doesn't suit him. Seemingly just to spite his critics. It'd be like JKidd during his prime trying to prove to the world that he was a combo guard.

I've got mixed feelings on this one. I hate that he got snubbed, but not as much as it pissed me off a few years ago when Horf got the nod over him. Though, I hope that the message got through to him. Something smells of a conspiracy here...and I'm not even joking.

Probably for the better.

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I honestly never thought Smith should have got in before Horford. Teams actually gameplan for Al and Joe. They didn't for Smith on offense. Defensively, teams still don't gameplan v. Smith. It's one of those things you kind of wonder what Smith respect is around the league. The players know Smith is a pursuit specialist.

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I hate Luol Deng making before Josh. I would rather Marvin make it in before Josh. Deng is such a f**king clown I swear in comparison. I hear that the Bulls are the best team but their mainly an one man team. They should be the Chicago Rose. They are built around one player which is Rose. Everyone else is role players. Smith isn't a role player like Deng.

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Always been indifferent toward the guy. Wildly talented, significantly dumb. What you gonna do? Many players can win games, as Josh does his fair share. There are only a select few of guys who can lose games with horrendous decisions that severely hurt the team and they haven't a clue about how poorly they think the game, and the first guys that come to mind are Monta Ellis, Josh Smith, and Carlmelo Anthony. There has never been, nor will there ever be a perfect player. They all make mistakes and have glaring flaws. But the mistakes that Josh makes are simply easy enough for a middle schooler to correct, and that just makes coaches and GMs for that matter, avoid him like the plague, and I can't blame them. Clearly the void of college education and coaching shows in his game. Hell, I can't see anything he learned from Oak Hill but honing his athleticism. Everyone in the NBA know's how skill-limited Luol Deng is. This is just a continuous league-wide referendum on Josh and how he's viewed.

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I don't honestly see how anyone can call themselves a Hawks fan let alone a real NBA fan and come to the conclusion that Josh Smith does not deserve to be an All Star. His numbers and on court performance are clearly and quantifiably better than guys like Pierce, Iggy and Deng. This guy has been passed over for at least four seasons now where he deserved to be in the game.

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Why do you guys get so personal with benhillboy all the time? he is entitled to his opinion just like the rest of you. He post are well written and he articulates his points well.

The people on here just like myself who feel that Josh should not be an allstar are vindicated by the fact that he isn't on the all star team. i guess the coaches share our opinion of the guy. All the arguing in the world won't change that.

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I think what makes it suck is that 2 guys (deng and iggy) were selected to their first allstar game that are both having years not as good as Josh. It it had been one guy or he lost out just because a perennial all star like Pierce was selected then its easier to swallow. I just don't know how both those guys got in ahead of him. I don't think it really has anything to do with Josh. I think its because he plays for the Hawks.

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