Popular Post volman Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 The referees are not calling this down the center. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Early 4th phantom call on Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post volman Posted June 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 pointer that was touched by Giannis no call. Consistent “holding” by Lopez with no call. On offensive and defensive sides with no calls. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 There were others but in a key point in the game giannis with the charge on OO with a no call… led directly to a 3 pointer and the bucks now lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post MarylandHawk Posted June 28, 2021 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 That call against John and not Giannis was a turning point in the game. Either call it on Giannis ir not at all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobrathbun4pres Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Not to mention the accidental step on traes foot that took him out and inhibited his drive after 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Disgusting bullshit 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Only us. Don’t refs get trained to call a play and not have their big fat foots in the way on the players? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 The referees will not be a discussion but it really killed our chances of doing anything. not to mention. Not a single 10 second call on Giannis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalamchops Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 watched it in person, was not a terribly called game, no excuses for a choke job. typical atl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheBigETrain Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Nate McMillan got out coached by Bud. I can’t believe Nate couldn’t find any minutes for Reddish or Dunn. Especially when Middleton was going off. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 8 hours ago, volman said: The referees will not be a discussion but it really killed our chances of doing anything. not to mention. Not a single 10 second call on Giannis. So I don't think the refs were why we lost but it was another oddly called game. That's for sure. Timely missed calls impact the game beyond the point of the play in question. The foul call on Jollins, not on Giannis is a clear example of that. It happens both ways but when it consistently impacts one team more ... that's where it gets odd. Listen I don't like the 10 second rule thing but if it's a rule then they have to call it. It feels gimmicky for sure but shiiiiii, we didn't write the rule book. They did. They should've had the guts to call it in MIL so it doesn't look so egregious if they call it now. But that's not the Hawks' fault. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post volman Posted June 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, kg01 said: So I don't think the refs were why we lost but it was another oddly called game. That's for sure. Timely missed calls impact the game beyond the point of the play in question. The foul call on Jollins, not on Giannis is a clear example of that. It happens both ways but when it consistently impacts one team more ... that's where it gets odd. Listen I don't like the 10 second rule thing but if it's a rule then they have to call it. It feels gimmicky for sure but shiiiiii, we didn't write the rule book. They did. They should've had the guts to call it in MIL so it doesn't look so egregious if they call it now. But that's not the Hawks' fault. i don’t think it cost us the game, but a game where Jollins gets to play because he isn’t I. Bogus foul trouble… things like the “alley oop” goaltend that wasn’t called, among other things, make you scratch your head. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AUhawksfan Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Not to mention OO getting taken out on that alley oop he made, but no "and 1" called. I'm not going to blame the refs since there is plenty we could've done to pull this one out but there is no way Milwaukee would've pulled away in the 4th like they did if it weren't for the calls going their way. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, AUhawksfan said: Not to mention OO getting taken out on that alley oop he made, but no "and 1" called. I'm not going to blame the refs since there is plenty we could've done to pull this one out but there is no way Milwaukee would've pulled away in the 4th like they did if it weren't for the calls going their way. Hey, they might've. But we'll never really know because the whistle got selectively swallowed. How many times do teams' runs get stopped by a timely foul/and-1? That wasn't available to us last night. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Trae STAY at the free throw line. It's not the refs, it's bad shooting by Atlanta, TURNOVERS and shot select by Trae, questionable rotations, SIZE disadvantage, and injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 10 hours ago, bobrathbun4pres said: Not to mention the accidental step on traes foot that took him out and inhibited his drive after That ref should be done for the rest of the playoffs but then that would be the league and refs admitting a mistake. A very big mistake. Maybe I should say am hoping it was just a very big mistake because this league already has enough on its plate to clean up all the damn bias we have faced. Its amateurish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted June 28, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 I try to be as objective as possible, which i know is not likely, but it's hard for me to look at that game and say that the Bucks were on the wrong end of as many bad or missed calls. If you don't want to believe that there are ulterior motives with the refs then the only other conclusion is that they really suck at their job. There are 3 refs staring at this play. There is no explanation for missing this call. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted June 28, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 i've watched Trae's ankle injury live a few times and i definitely think it was just a fluke play and a total accident, but it is also unusual for the ref to stand directly behind a player like that. usually when the players move to in front of the refs the refs slide to a different position if for no other reason than to see better. This guy was just a statue there. Again, i don't think the ref did anything deliberately but it's also another example of the ref not doing a very good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted June 28, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 I am all in favor of automating refereeing / umpiring wherever you can. The vast majority of the time there is no ill will, just human mistakes made. Guys have bad nights and mess calls up. Sometimes egos come into the picture and you end up with BS personal biases changing the game but whatever the reason it is cold comfort to a team when they aren't able to function on a level playing field. It isn't an excuse to me to say "that is just part of the game, guess you need to live with Giannis tipping in 3pters or Jrue pushing the ball over the halfline for a BS TO because that is just a human part of the game." Would love to see us get to the point where it is automated and called by machines with human review. Also, it is super 100% BS that if a coach challenges a play that they can't challenge another play later on even if they are right. That means that instead of worrying about whether the play is called right the coaching staff must evaluate both whether the call was right and whether this is worth giving up their ability to challenge in a case an even worse call comes later (or at least a more impactful one). If you are giving a coach the ability to fix an error through a challenge, they should not lose that as long as they are correct. I am certain this is all about wanting to prevent a coach from embarrassing the officials by repeatedly challenging bad calls. Again, the egos of the refs should be secondary to getting things right and having a level playing field. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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