Jalen Johnson may be better than De'Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish

[NBASupes]

Ain't no one more wrong than @TheNorthCydeRises

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

23 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Ain't no one more wrong than @TheNorthCydeRises

 

 

Quin needs to start Bogi, and sit either Capela or Collins.  My vote would be for Capela, so that Collins can play the 5 and still give us the slight threat of a shooter, and a legit threat of a midrange / post shooter.

WE gonna celebrate Dre coming out like mini Grant Hill in that 1st quarter.  I'm more impressed with the 6 rebounds than the 10 points he got.

Now do it again.

 

[Final_quest]

On 4/17/2023 at 9:31 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

The start of 2021 were fun times with these:

 

....then he got injured 

Let's go back and tell what ACTUALLY happened.  At the time these memes were posted we were 3-1.  We then lost 8 out of 9 games WITH Hunter, and that is when all the Wingstop hype ended.    

Immediately following his injury we went on an 8 game winning streak.  Injury did not end the Wingstop fantasy, actual results and lack of ability ended that.  Remember the Wing Twist thread, "Hey guys, no one is going to call it out?  We actually play much better with Huerter and Bogi starting."  At the time no one said, "Our season is lost because Hunter got injured." 

Let's not revise history.  

[ShooterSays]

Dude’s looking ripped!

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[kg01]

14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Spoiler alert, he has a new nickname in kg universe ... BenJalen JohnSimmonSon. 

He's gonna be the good version. 

[Bonkers]

Finally one player on the Hawks is putting in work in the weight room!!!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

He needs work on his freethrow shooting 62.8% (that's CC Level baaaad 60.3%) and his 3pt shooting 28.8%

His total number of Rebounds, Assists, Steals and Blocks in limited minutes is impressive compared to 'he who should not be named' 

 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[thecampster]

Jalen is going to be featured in some pick n roll, pick n pop action this year.  His advantage here is the ability to facilitate out of the receiver position. Nothing our other bigs can really do.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

On 8/14/2021 at 7:18 PM, TheNorthCydeRises said:

This is a controversial and bold statement.  But it may be the truth.

Johnson's perimeter and ball handling skills can't be denied.  He's easily the better passer.  And I think he's the better isolation player, although De'Andre has vastly improved his midrange game.  Cam is potentially a better 3 point shooter, but consistency has been his issue from that range.

 

I wouldn't say that he's a better man defender than De'Andre or Cam, but he definitely has a better array of offensive skills than those two.  It's going to be VERY INTERESTING how Nate uses him.  You almost have to play him at the 3, with spot minutes at the 4.  He definitely makes Gallo expendable either during the season, or next offseason.

NBADraft.net ratings

• Athleticism      8
• Size                  8
• Defense            8
• Strength           8
• Quickness         8
• Leadership        7
• Jump Shot         7
• NBA Ready       7
• Ball Handling     8
• Potential            9
• Passing              8
• Intangibles       7

Overall                        93

 

To me, the ratings in red are ridiculous.   The guy is easily one of the 5 best athletes in this draft.  And at 6-9, his size is ideal to put at the 3 and even as a small ball 4 in a quick lineup  He didn't shoot the 3 with enough volume in college, so I can see why people may have had doubts with his long range shooting.  But I'm tempted to even bump him up here. 

He's DEFINITELY NBA ready.  I don't think few people can deny that.   And as far as intangibles, he has that too, with the way he can be a secondary ball handler and be a very good weak side defender. He's also ultra confident, which will help him adjust to the league very quickly.

Nate has a very good problem on his hands.  He has a playoff tested team that has good to great chemistry together.  And he doesn't have to rush putting the kids on the floor in expanded roles.

But how do you keep Jalen Johnson out of this rotation?  I honestly don't think you can.

At minimum, he completely takes over the Solo spot as our 3rd string SF/PF.  At maximum . . . he plays well enough to justify him being the 6th/7th man . . . or even starting, if Hunter and Reddish continue to be hampered by injuries.

And by the start of the 2022 - 23 season, our best wing may be Johnson . . . not Hunter or Reddish.

I have to admit, this was a hell of a prediction. If he gets 25+ minutes a game, here will be his numbers:

12.2 ppg - 7.4 rebs - 3.7 asst - 1 8 blks  - 1.1 stls 

48% FG - 33% 3FG - 77% FT

[kg01]

6 hours ago, thecampster said:

Jalen is going to be featured in some pick n roll, pick n pop action this year.  His advantage here is the ability to facilitate out of the receiver position. Nothing our other bigs can really do.

And so begins the legend of BenJalen JohnSimmons III ....... 

[JayBirdHawk]

Just a reminder of what JJ GLeague coach said:

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College Park Skyhawks coach Steve Gansey wasn’t asked for an NBA comparison for Hawks rookie Jalen Johnson. He wasn’t asked what he believes Johnson’s ceiling is once he finds himself an everyday NBA player. He was simply asked what kind of player he sees Johnson becoming.

So when Gansey casually threw out that he sees some LeBron James in the 20-year-old rookie, it stopped the interviewer in his tracks. You can’t just casually name The Athletic’s No. 2 player of all time without the interviewer double-checking to make sure he heard correctly.

“I do see a mini-LeBron in him with how he can dominate the game in a lot of different ways with passing, rebounding and scoring in our league,” Gansey said.

“Look, I’ve seen the guy. I’ve been around him. He can do a lot of different things. He’s athletic. He can playmake. When you see our games, you see a lot of different things. He can get the rebound and push it and find the open guy. He can knock down an open 3. He can pull up for 3. He has spin moves. He can finish. He just has to continue to improve that outside shot and get to a consistent level. It’ll be really impressive to see him grow.”

His vision and passing ability is what impresses me:

 

 

 

[Peoriabird]

Yeah..Lets trade this guy!

[akay]

5 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Yeah..Lets trade this guy!

Let's not act like this is a majority opinion lol 

[JeffS17]

Whew, saw this thread was active and was afraid someone posted that video where he is getting cooked by Obi Toppin  for 15 minutes lmao

[djjob23]

JJ said he modeled his game after LeBron and Ben Simmons after he was drafted. Now his GLeague coach is saying the same thing and he’s doing workouts with LeBron this offseason. I’ve been bullish on JJ since seeing him in the GLeague and he’s grown so much, but something tells me his development with the direction of this coaching staff (no roboNate to bury him on the bench) is going to be eye opening this season! 

[Gray Mule]

At what age does a player reach his peak?

Old man Jalen Johnson will hit age 22 on December 18, 2023.

(Gasp)  Why are we still discussing his G League play?  This was so long ago, wasn't it?  

Squawk posters, wake up!  We're talking about a very young player who has just recently started his journey in the NBA.  He's barely stuck his big toe in the pool.  Swimming laps are still in his future.  How much has he shown already?  Read what his G League coach had to say about him.  Quin and his staff are here to train and mold him.

Note:  I have six grandchildren, all of which are older than Jalen Johnson!  Am I a huge fan?  You bet I am!  I believe he is destined to become one of the best players to ever play for the Atlanta Hawks!  Better than any current Hawk?  Yes!  High expectations!

[Hawkish]

10 hours ago, djjob23 said:

JJ said he modeled his game after LeBron and Ben Simmons after he was drafted. Now his GLeague coach is saying the same thing and he’s doing workouts with LeBron this offseason. I’ve been bullish on JJ since seeing him in the GLeague and he’s grown so much, but something tells me his development with the direction of this coaching staff (no roboNate to bury him on the bench) is going to be eye opening this season! 

Do not trade JJ…. In a league full of empty scorers, he is a refreshing player to have.

[hawkman]

11 hours ago, JeffS17 said:

Whew, saw this thread was active and was afraid someone posted that video where he is getting cooked by Obi Toppin  for 15 minutes lmao

Just saw it. He wasn't getting cooked.