Now that we're going to be in the Tax in 2022 - (a primer for our tax discussions going forward)

[theheroatl]

Where’s your table with Murray less Gallo. So Atlanta didn’t have to do anything with Gallos salary so they just took in a less expensive contract than his full guarantee

Edited July 1, 2022 by theheroatl

[theheroatl]

Also keep in mind most of the time the immediate season cap isn’t as relevant as 2-3 years down the road when all the higher salaries kick in vs expect cap.

That would’ve prevented Knicks from seriously pursuing Murray anyway.

Edited July 1, 2022 by theheroatl

[AHF]

34 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Where’s your table with Murray less Gallo. So Atlanta didn’t have to do anything with Gallos salary so they just took in a less expensive contract than his full guarantee

His last two posts include Murray and have Gallo removed.

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, thecampster said:

Senior moment. Forgot to adjust Trae's salary with the new cap.

 

Player	2022-23
Trae Young	$37,096,500	$37,096,500
John Collins	$23,500,000	$60,596,500
Clint Capela	$19,706,897	$80,303,397
Bogdan Bogdanovic	$18,000,000	$98,303,397
DeJounte Murray	$16,571,120	$114,874,517
Kevin Huerter	$14,508,929	$129,383,446
De'Andre Hunter	$9,835,881	$139,219,327
Onyeka Okongwu	$6,395,160	$145,614,487
AJ Griffin	$2,907,300	$148,521,787
Jalen Johnson	$2,792,520	$151,314,307
Jock Landale	$1,563,518	$152,877,825		11 under contract
Total	$152,877,825
Cap	$123,655,000
LT Projected	$150,267,000
Add Ayton - Capela	$163.4 million	Over Apron		11 Under contract
Add Gobert - Capela and Bogi	$153.4 million			10 Under contract
Notes:	Cooper tendered 2 way

What is the date that everything has to be under the LT line or pay the tax?  Is it the start of the season?  End of season?  Obviously today is the start of the new NBA Year, but I'm guessing they aren't paying the tax based on today's salaries since we don't know who will sign or be traded away.  

[thecampster]

Just now, REHawksFan said:

What is the date that everything has to be under the LT line or pay the tax?  Is it the start of the season?  End of season?  Obviously today is the start of the new NBA Year, but I'm guessing they aren't paying the tax based on today's salaries since we don't know who will sign or be traded away.  

See...that's a great question.  Last day of the season for "paying the tax".  Current state for signings/trade rules.

[REHawksFan]

1 minute ago, thecampster said:

See...that's a great question.  Last day of the season for "paying the tax".  Current state for signings/trade rules.

So theoretically we could play over the LT line right up to the trade deadline and then dump enough salary to get under and not actually pay the tax?  

[thecampster]

21 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

So theoretically we could play over the LT line right up to the trade deadline and then dump enough salary to get under and not actually pay the tax?  

yes but just so you don't go getting all excited.  15 players we're going to be at About $158-160 million minimum. We'd have to drop 7.5-$10 million in salary at that time.

 

[thecampster]

2 hours ago, thecampster said:

Senior moment. Forgot to adjust Trae's salary with the new cap.

 

Player	2022-23
Trae Young	$37,096,500	$37,096,500
John Collins	$23,500,000	$60,596,500
Clint Capela	$19,706,897	$80,303,397
Bogdan Bogdanovic	$18,000,000	$98,303,397
DeJounte Murray	$16,571,120	$114,874,517
Kevin Huerter	$14,508,929	$129,383,446
De'Andre Hunter	$9,835,881	$139,219,327
Onyeka Okongwu	$6,395,160	$145,614,487
AJ Griffin	$2,907,300	$148,521,787
Jalen Johnson	$2,792,520	$151,314,307
Jock Landale	$1,563,518	$152,877,825		11 under contract
Total	$152,877,825
Cap	$123,655,000
LT Projected	$150,267,000
Add Ayton - Capela	$163.4 million	Over Apron		11 Under contract
Add Gobert - Capela and Bogi	$153.4 million			10 Under contract
Notes:	Cooper tendered 2 way

Assuming Aaron Holiday's deal is for the 4 year vet minimum of $1,968,175,  

Total - $154,846,000 for 12 players

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$4,579,000

Apron room - $2,137,000

[thecampster]

6 hours ago, thecampster said:

Assuming Aaron Holiday's deal is for the 4 year vet minimum of $1,968,175,  

Total - $154,846,000 for 12 players

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$4,579,000

Apron room - $2,137,000

Out Huerter - $14,508,929

In Holiday - $6,292,440 , Harkless $4,464,980

Total - $151,094,491 for 13 players.

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$827,491

Apron room - $5,888,509

[REHawksFan]

44 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Out Huerter - $14,508,929

In Holiday - $6,292,440 , Harkless $4,464,980

Total - $151,094,491 for 13 players.

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$827,491

Apron room - $5,888,509

Just to clarify, the apron only matters if we do a sign and trade right?  

[thecampster]

3 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Just to clarify, the apron only matters if we do a sign and trade right?  

Yes

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Yes

[thecampster]

Part 2 - the last 3 slots.  With the trade of Landale and subbing out Clint's bonuses,

we are now at 12 salaries,

$148,627,855

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  $1,639,123

Apron room - $8,355,145

[NBASupes]

3 hours ago, thecampster said:

Part 2 - the last 3 slots.  With the trade of Landale and subbing out Clint's bonuses,

we are now at 12 salaries,

$148,627,855

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  $1,639,123

Apron room - $8,355,145

Why do you have Capela max salary when his cap hold is 18.2 million. If he hits his max, that means the Hawks made the conference finals which mean they don't care about the tax as they will make a lot of playoff money. 

[thecampster]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Why do you have Capela max salary when his cap hold is 18.2 million. If he hits his max, that means the Hawks made the conference finals which mean they don't care about the tax as they will make a lot of playoff money. 

I removed them...that is what subbing out Clint's bonuses mean. 

 

[Peoriabird]

3 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Why do you have Capela max salary when his cap hold is 18.2 million. If he hits his max, that means the Hawks made the conference finals which mean they don't care about the tax as they will make a lot of playoff money. 

Someone has probably already listed them somewhere else but what are Capela's incentives

[JayBirdHawk]

45 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Someone has probably already listed them somewhere else but what are Capela's incentives

• 2022-23: $1,000,000 (Conference Finals + 2k min) + $500,000 (30% defensive rebound rate + 2k min) + $500,000 (65% FT%)

[Peoriabird]

11 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

• 2022-23: $1,000,000 (Conference Finals + 2k min) + $500,000 (30% defensive rebound rate + 2k min) + $500,000 (65% FT%)

Probably don't have to worry about the last one!  LOL!

[Gray Mule]

Latest wild, crazy rumor:  Atlanta traded for Murray to replace Trae Young!

[thecampster]

For those saying we're being cheap and avoiding the tax.

13 players under contract.