Would KAT fit with the Hawks?

[Spud2nique]

Wondering how many are on the side of selling a bit of the farm, well a lot of it in this case to land KAT. Just wondering which side of the fence everyone is on.

Thoughts? 
 

ps Selling the farm=Cam or Hunter and JC and possibly a first or somewhere around that cost.

[Atlantaholic]

Firstly this all depends on what we give up. Minny isn't giving KAT away, especially when they are about to make the playoffs, or at least the play in for the first time in a long time. Also, and smart people please correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't it also be true if we acquire KAT we would be more limited in our cap down the line? He is signed through 23-24 which is two more seasons after this one and then how do we pay him plus whatever Trae's next contract is? I like KAT a lot, but I'm not sure he is worth max money. He is a one way player that requires the ball in his hands a lot. 

[hawkman]

He absolutely fits but it will hurt the Hawks' depth significantly. I'd hate to see JC go because I'd rather pair him with KAT. I'm still bullish on the young wings. I feel like the Hawks would be selling low on Cam or Hunter if either gets traded this season.

[Spud2nique]

6 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Firstly this all depends on what we give up.

You not read the whole ting? 

Collins + Cam or Hunter and a pick or 2.

[Spud2nique]

7 minutes ago, hawkman said:

He absolutely fits but it will hurt the Hawks' depth significantly. I'd hate to see JC go because I'd rather pair him with KAT. I'm still bullish on the young wings. I feel like the Hawks would be selling low on Cam or Hunter if either gets traded this season.

You mind ringing the poll 🗳 bell for the talley of YES then. Lol. I’m counting on my fingers here.

[JayBirdHawk]

11 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Firstly this all depends on what we give up. Minny isn't giving KAT away, especially when they are about to make the playoffs, or at least the play in for the first time in a long time. Also, and smart people please correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't it also be true if we acquire KAT we would be more limited in our cap down the line? He is signed through 23-24 which is two more seasons after this one and then how do we pay him plus whatever Trae's next contract is? I like KAT a lot, but I'm not sure he is worth max money. He is a one way player that requires the ball in his hands a lot. 

Speaking to the salary over the next two years after this season:

KAT makes $33 and $36 

JC and Hunter makes $32 and $37 combined

JC and Reddish makes $28 and $33 combined

The big difference would be the upcoming salaries for Hunter and Reddish.

[Atlantaholic]

16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Speaking to the salary over the next two years after this season:

KAT makes $33 and $36 

JC and Hunter makes $32 and $37 combined

JC and Reddish makes $28 and $33 combined

The big difference would be the upcoming salaries for Hunter and Reddish.

But we can go over the cap to sign those guys... we can't do that with KAT, right?

[JayBirdHawk]

11 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

But we can go over the cap to sign those guys... we can't do that with KAT, right?

I don't quite understand the exact question - the money owed over the next 2 year for these combo of players aligns with what KAT makes currently.  And yes, if in 2 years KAT is resigned, Hawks can exceed the cap to resign him since they would own his bird rights.  I may not fully understand your question.

[Atlantaholic]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I don't quite understand the exact question - the money owed over the next 2 year for these combo of players aligns with what KAT makes currently.  And yes, if in 2 years KAT is resigned, Hawks can exceed the cap to resign him since they would own his bird rights.  I may not fully understand your question.

Nope, that answers it. I thought bird rights only apply for players you drafted, so my question was in the event we acquired KAT if we could go over the cap to resign him.

[Final_quest]

Another name in this equation, Jalen Johnson.  He is beefy and could be part of the bigs rotation.  Jalen fits with either KAT or OO.  

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Nope, that answers it. I thought bird rights only apply for players you drafted, so my question was in the event we acquired KAT if we could go over the cap to resign him.

Got it.  If a player is traded his bird rights goes with him. He would not be eligible however to receive the Super Max contract (35% of Cap) since it can only be given by the team that drafts him. So his max would be capped at 30%.

[Spud2nique]

10 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Got it.  If a player is traded his bird rights goes with him. He would not be eligible however to receive the Super Max contract (35% of Cap) since it can only be given by the team that drafts him. So his max would be capped at 30%.

Good God unstudies are the best! Wow, you’ve gone above and beyond. Somewhere, @hawksfanatic.    is smiling 
 

 cheers @JayBirdHawk she guuuuuuuddddd doh 

Edited January 7, 2022 by Spud2nique

[Spud2nique]

But @JayBirdHawk, would you? (Not that old game where you point out if you’d sleep with kg but rather the KAT thingy). 

[JayBirdHawk]

7 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Good God unstudies are the best! Wow, you’ve gone above and beyond. Somewhere, @hawksfanatic.    is smiling 
 

 cheers @JayBirdHawk she guuuuuuuddddd doh 

HAHAHA...The Cap used to frustrate me as I couldn't understand why teams could sign guys and be over the cap and we couldn't.  So I got tutorials from Hawkfanatic.  Now I get it and doing by best to impart what I know to the Squawk.

[JayBirdHawk]

6 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

But @JayBirdHawk, would you? (Not that old game where you point out if you’d sleep with kg but rather the KAT thingy). 

My magic 8-ball says

 

 

[Watchman]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Wondering how many are on the side of selling a bit of the farm, well a lot of it in this case to land KAT. Just wondering which side of the fence everyone is on.

Thoughts? 
 

ps Selling the farm=Cam or Hunter and JC and possibly a first or somewhere around that cost.

We would be giving up a lot more than we would be getting back.   I'm opposed to making this type of trade.

[Carmine]

As long as the Wolves are asking for mainly players and not too much draft capital i'd do a K.A.T trade in a heartbeat. Aint nobody trying to get Danny Ainge'd in 2022. KAT fits like glue.

[TRW]

KAT would fit right in. All offense and no defense. He's a really good player but I wouldn't do it. He gets hurt just as much or more than DeAndre Hunter. We would have to give up too much. He would also have to player power forward with Capela at  Center. I think KAT is too slow to guard power forwards. With all that said, Trae and KAT would be a great offensive combination but the defense would be terrible. 

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, TRW said:

Capela at  Center.

That would mean JC gets traded with one of Cam or Hunter for KAT and folks don’t think he will because he’s our heart and voice.

[Spud2nique]

I just don’t see it unless there are essentially 2 big trades, Cap next to KAT isn’t great and JC and KAT doesn’t really work either.

 

2 big trades seems super unlikely, not after going to the ECF. How patient is Schlenk, he’s been awesome, eager to see if his overall grade stays at an A/A- with me. I’d give him an A- so far overall he’s been great.