The Mega Super Rumor Thread (Part 2)

[JayBirdHawk]

9 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

If the Hawks want KD, they will have to sell our squad to KD. What we have after that trade will not be good enough but we still got some good pieces like Trae, Hunter, Bogi, Capela and Gallo that's left while being crushed draft asset wise. 

Atlanta offer is elite but they gotta put together a better squad for KD or else, he won't come to Atlanta.

Soo...how do we accomplish this after selling the squad and picks.  We'd have to sign QUALITY vet mins for the next 2 years. 

Trae, Hunter, Bogi, Cap, Gallo, KD - that's already $145 million.

 

[nathan2331]

4 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Ya'll worried about the future.  Gas might be $15/gal by this time next year.  Better live for today, instead of trying to get to tomorrow.

This line of thinking is literallly what has kept the Nets from failing to win anything with any of the stars they've recruited. You can't gut a team for star players and expect to contend if you don't have a plan in place to replace what was lost. I think we can pull off a KD trade if he's truly available, but completely gutting the team will see us fall short of a championship.

[akay]

9 minutes ago, AHF said:

What about his performance last season makes you think he’s not still elite?  I think on a different roster his performance would have led to a great season for his team. No Kyrie, no Ben and some disappointments from the rest of the team were why the Nets weren’t better.

Agree his performance was elite, and will probably continue to be for next season. I just worry about his regression whenever it comes. He's a 33/34 year old 7 footer with an Achilles injury. Worries me a lot to have to think about his decline after giving up all the assets we'd have to for him.

But I do also love rolling the dice lol, so even if we trade everything and manage to win a championship it's obviously very worth it. Just don't know if we'd be contenders after gutting our team.

[Diesel]

40 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

You literally give up JC - Kev - Hunter - OO + 1st rd picks, in order to secure Durant here.

You'd still have Capela and Bogi.  You could re-sign Wright.  And you add role playing fillers to put around your two offensive superstar players.  There is no way you let any Hawk player ( not named Trae Young ) prevent you from landing a sure fire 1st ballot Hall of Famer, who is still in his prime.

Trae - Wright - Bogi - KD - Capela . . . that's about as good as it gets folks.

Adding Durant with Trae Young instantly puts the Hawks on national TV 20 - 25 times a year.

No Kev.

[JayBirdHawk]

7 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

LOL

Travis, just walk away now and quit wasting your time. How are we supposed to trade assets to make the team better so KD will want to come here, but use those assets at the same time to meet BKN's exorbitant demands? This is comical and a waste of time. 

Let Travis do his due diligence then move on.

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Yeah, make a good-faith attempt while understanding you can't tear it down to the studs.  If that's not enough, pull out and go with plan A-2.  And, along the way, remember a KD-led super squad got swept this last season. 

This would be more that tearing it down to the studs - all you've got is the foundation with Trae and KD. Good start, but it's also unrealistic for KD to expect a pivot to a sheet rocked house.

[akay]

12 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

Ya'll worried about the future.  Gas might be $15/gal by this time next year.  Better live for today, instead of trying to get to tomorrow.

Fair point, let's just full send and ride the wave. Even if KD gets hurt and can't play, I believe in Trae to get to a level where he can carry a team to the playoffs alone with mediocre help

[Sothron]

We are trying to make a deal for KD. This is from my source. Problems are that giving up the farm to get him would leave the team gutted too much for a Trae/KD team to still have a chance to contend.

We are talking to SAS and other teams about everyone on our roster except Trae. There are those that are so attached to Hunter and OO that it is handicapping any trade talks because of how much they are valued. I can guess that person's initials are TS but my source didn't specify a name. That's me guessing.

The team feels their disinformation campaign has worked well with almost every team attached to the Hawks in rumors. I confess I don't know what tactical advantage this really gives us except for throwing off talk from "real" targets. But something tells me (this is a guess on my part) that Murray was the secret trade and now its hitting snags. But that's a guess from me not reporting from my source.

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, nathan2331 said:

This line of thinking is literallly what has kept the Nets from failing to win anything with any of the stars they've recruited. You can't gut a team for star players and expect to contend if you don't have a plan in place to replace what was lost. I think we can pull off a KD trade if he's truly available, but completely gutting the team will see us fall short of a championship.

I think the problem was more so Kyrie because he's well Kyrie, and Kyrie not being available annoyed Harden who then sulked his way to the Sixers. They just never gelled as a unit.

[bleachkit]

No need to indulge Supes fantasies. This is a leverage play, and he isn't coming here even if it wasn't. This is detailing the thread. 

[JayBirdHawk]

17 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Ya'll worried about the future.  Gas might be $15/gal by this time next year.  Better live for today, instead of trying to get to tomorrow.

[akay]

I will be happy if the Hawks make any interesting move(s). I'll take anything at point

[GameTime]

3 minutes ago, Sothron said:

We are trying to make a deal for KD. This is from my source. Problems are that giving up the farm to get him would leave the team gutted too much for a Trae/KD team to still have a chance to contend.

Are they trying to get another star to pair with Trae/KD?

[NBASupes]

9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Soo...how do we accomplish this after selling the squad and picks.  We'd have to sign QUALITY vet mins for the next 2 years. 

Trae, Hunter, Bogi, Cap, Gallo, KD - that's already $145 million.

 

That's what everyone who had made a great offer is feeling. It's hard to make a great offer when you aren't a contender and expect to be a contender after it. KD played on the Thunder, Warriors, and Nets, he knows what an elite team looks like and it's not him and Trae with Hunter, Clint, Bogi, and Gallo and no bench at all.

[Peoriabird]

11 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Soo...how do we accomplish this after selling the squad and picks.  We'd have to sign QUALITY vet mins for the next 2 years. 

Trae, Hunter, Bogi, Cap, Gallo, KD - that's already $145 million.

 

Why is this message board now talking about Kevin Durant????  You sure you still love this time of year?  Its just a lot of noise!

[JayBirdHawk]

Wolves about to trade D'Angelo Russell?

Dane Moore: I’ve been saying for the past month that I’ve heard it is over a 50% chance that D’Angelo Russell is traded this offseason. Conversations with a few non-Timberwolves sources today suggest a Russell trade is now even more likely — either tonight or the first week of July.

 

– via Twitter DaneMooreNBA

[RedDawg#8]

Shhh, don't tell @NBASupes 

 

Rudy Gobert Trade Rumors: Hawks' Interest in Jazz Star Has Been 'Wildly Overblown'

ROB GOLDBERGJUNE 23, 2022

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039710-rudy-gobert-trade-rumors-hawks-interest-in-jazz-star-has-been-wildly-overblown

[Diesel]

The trade for KD as I see it is JC, Hunter, OO, and a first.

We would still have Clint, Kev, Bogi, Gallo, JJ, and Rife.  I think our fortunes change with KD.  I believe that KD was the prize that ownership talked about when it said for the right player, we don't mind going over the cap.   Schlenk has to try...

as far as Murray goes...

What if the Ask is JC, OO, and a couple of Firsts....

Here's what we need to talk about. 

Why do we have our anchors set in around OO and Hunter?   They really haven't proved enough for us to turn down ALL NBA or HOF talent.  Just because we drafted them doesn't make them GREAT.  That is the problem with a lot of the balking I hear.  They are tradable assets that we can use to get better talent....

 

[akay]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

That's what everyone who had made a great offer is feeling. It's hard to make a great offer when you aren't a contender and expect to be a contender after it. KD played on the Thunder, Warriors, and Nets, he knows what an elite team looks like and it's not him and Trae with Hunter, Clint, Bogi, and Gallo and no bench at all.

What an exercise to see if you can viably build a contender after gutting your team 2 hours before the draft lol, don't envy Travis's position right now at all...

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

Why is this message board now talking about Kevin Durant????  You sure you still love this time of year?  Its just a lot of noise!

[Peoriabird]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

I don't know how you do it!  LOL!