theheroatl Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Diesel said: I'm liking the thought of Gallo + FRP SNT for Collin Sexton. I think off ball, he'd do just fine. He's a ball hawk also. Bring him home... Sexton is the best alternative, the Oladipo as backup. Brogdon is worst case scenario. 1. Murray 2. Sexton 3. Oladipo 4. Brogdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, JTB said: But we know it’s because of Trae therefore……nevermind sure supes…sure. Strangely.. I'm in agreement with Supes. The 1-5 & 2-5 PNR with Clint is a powerful weapon. We still need more wrinkles in our offense off of it. Again, I liked what Hunt was doing with the Backdoor cuts for JC and the double screens where CC or JC could be the roll man. I think Trae like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 29, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Sexton is terrible idea ... worst defensive backcourt in the history of the game. We will get destroyed on a daily basis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted June 29, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Update @Sothron you are that guy. Hearing that Atlanta and Ayton talks are back again. PHX has engaged Atlanta. The issue is Trae wants Capela but we will see. But Phoenix has engaged in talks with Atlanta. Right now, the market for Ayton is described as tepid. PHX doesn't really want him back and other teams aren't willing to give their best offers. Toronto isn't interested in moving OG at all but GTJ is available for Gobert or Ayton. PHX made it clear to Atlanta, they want Capela but like I said, Trae is fighting to keep Clint. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, theheroatl said: Sexton is the best alternative, the Oladipo as backup. Brogdon is worst case scenario. 1. Murray 2. Sexton 3. Oladipo 4. Brogdon I don't know why you got Brogdon as the worse. A healthy Brogdon actually becomes the best of all of them. 6'5" 225 is just what we need and a guy who has done 19/9 with very few turnovers... This board has somehow vilified Brogdon who is definitely the best match for Trae because of his injuries? OK.. they are bad.. but not as Bad as Oladipo's... Oladipo has had 2 quad tears... Here's Brogdon's. I have emphasized the things that are bad... DATE DESCRIPTION 02/28/2022 Rest 02/24/2022 Achilles 01/20/2022 Achilles 01/13/2022 Achilles 01/12/2022 Achilles 12/23/2021 Health And Safety Protocols 11/05/2021 Illness 10/27/2021 Hamstring 10/19/2021 Left Ac 04/29/2021 Hamstring 04/02/2021 Hip 03/22/2021 Back 02/27/2021 Knee 08/11/2020 Neck 08/05/2020 Neck 07/31/2020 Cervical Strain 03/04/2020 Hip 01/25/2020 Concussion 01/22/2020 Laceration 12/31/2019 Back 12/30/2019 Left Hamstring 12/23/2019 Groin 12/07/2019 Hand 11/15/2019 Back 03/15/2019 Heel 03/02/2019 Heel 02/22/2019 Foot 01/28/2019 Sternum 12/17/2018 Hamstring 12/14/2018 Hamstring 02/01/2018 Torn Left Quadricep Tendon 01/26/2018 Sore Right Calf 10/23/2017 Sprained Left Ankle Here's Victor's DATE DESCRIPTION 05/13/2021 Right Knee 04/08/2021 Knee 03/24/2021 Illnes 03/22/2021 Rest 03/12/2021 Rest 02/27/2021 Quad 02/11/2021 Foot 02/09/2021 Quad 02/04/2021 Rest 01/23/2021 Rest 01/12/2021 Injury Management 12/27/2020 Injury Management 08/18/2020 Eye 08/13/2020 Ankle 08/11/2020 Ankle 08/02/2020 Rest 07/23/2020 Knee/Calf 03/09/2020 Knee 03/07/2020 Knee 03/02/2020 Knee 02/21/2020 Back 02/07/2020 Knee 02/06/2020 Knee 01/23/2019 Quad 12/27/2018 Sore Right Shoulder 11/17/2018 Knee 04/10/2018 Sore Right Foot 02/05/2018 Illness 12/27/2017 Sore Right Knee 11/28/2017 Sore Knee 11/24/2017 Bruised Right Knee Here's Collin's DATE DESCRIPTION 11/08/2021 Knee 04/24/2021 Concussion 04/11/2021 Groin 03/24/2021 Hamstring 02/04/2021 Neck 01/11/2021 Ankle 01/07/2021 Ankle 11/07/2018 Undisclosed 3 minutes ago, capstone21 said: Sexton is terrible idea ... worst defensive backcourt in the history of the game. We will get destroyed on a daily basis. Not true. The worst would be Trae and Spyda Mitchell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Dean Walker Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: Update @Sothron you are that guy. Hearing that Atlanta and Ayton talks are back again. PHX has engaged Atlanta. The issue is Trae wants Capela but we will see. But Phoenix has engaged in talks with Atlanta. Right now, the market for Ayton is described as tepid. PHX doesn't really want him back and other teams aren't willing to give their best offers. Toronto isn't interested in moving OG at all but GTJ is available for Gobert or Ayton. PHX made it clear to Atlanta, they want Capela but like I said, Trae is fighting to keep Clint. With all due respect trae needs to respectfully sit down and stfu! Ayton>>>>>>>>>>>>Capela! 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, capstone21 said: Sexton is terrible idea ... worst defensive backcourt in the history of the game. We will get destroyed on a daily basis. I'm thinking we address defense elsewhere. Take care of the playmaking with a Sexton addition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted June 29, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Diesel said: I don't know why you got Brogdon as the worse. A healthy Brogdon actually becomes the best of all of them. 6'5" 225 is just what we need and a guy who has done 19/9 with very few turnovers... This board has somehow vilified Brogdon who is definitely the best match for Trae because of his injuries? OK.. they are bad.. but not as Bad as Oladipo's... Oladipo has had 2 quad tears... Here's Brogdon's. I have emphasized the things that are bad... DATE DESCRIPTION 02/28/2022 Rest 02/24/2022 Achilles 01/20/2022 Achilles 01/13/2022 Achilles 01/12/2022 Achilles 12/23/2021 Health And Safety Protocols 11/05/2021 Illness 10/27/2021 Hamstring 10/19/2021 Left Ac 04/29/2021 Hamstring 04/02/2021 Hip 03/22/2021 Back 02/27/2021 Knee 08/11/2020 Neck 08/05/2020 Neck 07/31/2020 Cervical Strain 03/04/2020 Hip 01/25/2020 Concussion 01/22/2020 Laceration 12/31/2019 Back 12/30/2019 Left Hamstring 12/23/2019 Groin 12/07/2019 Hand 11/15/2019 Back 03/15/2019 Heel 03/02/2019 Heel 02/22/2019 Foot 01/28/2019 Sternum 12/17/2018 Hamstring 12/14/2018 Hamstring 02/01/2018 Torn Left Quadricep Tendon 01/26/2018 Sore Right Calf 10/23/2017 Sprained Left Ankle Here's Victor's DATE DESCRIPTION 05/13/2021 Right Knee 04/08/2021 Knee 03/24/2021 Illnes 03/22/2021 Rest 03/12/2021 Rest 02/27/2021 Quad 02/11/2021 Foot 02/09/2021 Quad 02/04/2021 Rest 01/23/2021 Rest 01/12/2021 Injury Management 12/27/2020 Injury Management 08/18/2020 Eye 08/13/2020 Ankle 08/11/2020 Ankle 08/02/2020 Rest 07/23/2020 Knee/Calf 03/09/2020 Knee 03/07/2020 Knee 03/02/2020 Knee 02/21/2020 Back 02/07/2020 Knee 02/06/2020 Knee 01/23/2019 Quad 12/27/2018 Sore Right Shoulder 11/17/2018 Knee 04/10/2018 Sore Right Foot 02/05/2018 Illness 12/27/2017 Sore Right Knee 11/28/2017 Sore Knee 11/24/2017 Bruised Right Knee Here's Collin's DATE DESCRIPTION 11/08/2021 Knee 04/24/2021 Concussion 04/11/2021 Groin 03/24/2021 Hamstring 02/04/2021 Neck 01/11/2021 Ankle 01/07/2021 Ankle 11/07/2018 Undisclosed Not true. The worst would be Trae and Spyda Mitchell. In what way is Sexton better than Mitchell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawkmoor Posted June 29, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) The Hawksquawk NBA trade party: "who do we want? we want Dejounte Murray! we want Dejounte Murray! we want Dejounte Murray!" Edited June 29, 2022 by Hawkmoor 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, macdaddy said: In what way is Sexton better than Mitchell? Cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted June 29, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dean Walker said: With all due respect trae needs to respectfully sit down and stfu! Ayton>>>>>>>>>>>>Capela! I got more, Atlanta likes him at 4/100 which is the same as JCs. This is higher than his real market value but not a massive overpay like JC. New York and Murray. I was told NY made a significant offer including Cam Reddish and Randle in a package deal with SA. SA is not interested in Randle at all and Randle market is give us two 1sts for him status around the league. That said, that's the only bit of detail I got outside of this. They even offered Evan and Cam and some picks. The Spurs seem like they are playing themselves if you ask me but I don't have the full picture as SA has closed ranks. Everything he got is from NY side and you know, it can be a tad bias to the boys in Manhattan. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, macdaddy said: In what way is Sexton better than Mitchell? Sexton tries on defense. Since KJ has retired, Mitchell is the King of Olay... 1 minute ago, Diesel said: Sexton tries on defense. Since KJ has retired, Mitchell is the King of Olay... Moreover, Sexton gets almost 1 steal per game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kobie Drew Posted June 29, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Thank y’all for the welcome. I ain’t even gonna lie I’ve been lurking these chats for the past month or so. I’m just a huge hawks fan who found the right page. That being said I like capela but would easily rather have ayton. But I’ve been having to ask myself a tough question and maybe you guys can chime in and help. But how much of an upgrade is ayton really? And what all besides CC would you be willing to give up for him? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, kg01 said: Sexton, by far. Shut up @Spud2nique. This is different! Ya… it’s personal this time!!! DUN DUN DUUUUUUUNNNNNN (80’s dramatic tv music )… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Diesel said: Yall need to get a room with this Cam Shit. @NBASupes… after you sir! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Kobie Drew said: He’s still young and still developing. He's been young and developing for 3 years and has nothing to show for it. IMO his on-court impact towards winning truly is pretty garbage even though he's one of the most gifted guys on the court. It's a really weird combo but we saw it for a couple years. He does some things that are visibly good but he does about everything that's not as noticeable at a WOAT level (team defense, boxing out, rebounding, off-ball movement, screening, etc.) He's like a street ball player that made it to the NBA based on talent alone and never made an effort to develop into a refined player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member akay Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Update @Sothron you are that guy. Hearing that Atlanta and Ayton talks are back again. PHX has engaged Atlanta. The issue is Trae wants Capela but we will see. But Phoenix has engaged in talks with Atlanta. Right now, the market for Ayton is described as tepid. PHX doesn't really want him back and other teams aren't willing to give their best offers. Toronto isn't interested in moving OG at all but GTJ is available for Gobert or Ayton. PHX made it clear to Atlanta, they want Capela but like I said, Trae is fighting to keep Clint. Sounds like Ayton is an option no matter what, so I could see us trading Capela for him so that we can achieve Resslers getting better mandate, but damn I'd be sad to see Clint go to get a max center. Trade the 3 trash picks and 2 pick swaps and get Murray. We can always buy second rounders and rely on our good scouting for cheap talent if we need bodies so bad. Murray IS a game changer, and worries about his regression don't make sense. He won't be the first option this time, and he can just focus on spot up shooting, driving, playmaking, rebounding, and defense instead of trying to take his awful jumpers. Also, idk who said cam could be a starter on an nba team, but that's just pure fantasy land. Man couldn't even find minutes on the Knicks lol. Cam has the potential to be a starter, but saying he's there right now, no. I wish we could get Gallo back after cutting him, mans can barely move, but he can shoot the hell out of the ball and help settle the game when momentum is getting out of control. We don't really have another guy that'll just slow the game down to their pace and make a move, but perhaps Ayton can do that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, capstone21 said: Sexton is terrible idea ... worst defensive backcourt in the history of the game. We will get destroyed on a daily basis. Trae and Sex would give up 150 a night on a good night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kobie Drew said: I’m just a huge hawks fan How huge? (Of a fan) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member akay Posted June 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kobie Drew said: Thank y’all for the welcome. I ain’t even gonna lie I’ve been lurking these chats for the past month or so. I’m just a huge hawks fan who found the right page. That being said I like capela but would easily rather have ayton. But I’ve been having to ask myself a tough question and maybe you guys can chime in and help. But how much of an upgrade is ayton really? And what all besides CC would you be willing to give up for him? Ayton is a huge upgrade offensively, downgrade defensively, upgrade availability. Overall though, our offense is really good already outside of secondary shot creation, Ayton isn't worth the farm or the max he wants. At least not for our team, we need some hard nosed defense, and Clint can provide. It's a hard choice, but I think I'd perhaps to JC for Ayton in a swap if contracts were the same, but Clint for near max Ayton? Nah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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